Dislocation cones and other stuff

[johnpirate]

Has anyone managed to fit the dislocation cones from Paddocks.I spent best part of an hour fiddling around with the top plate the nut and bolt trying to work out how the drivers side went in.I,ve only got small fingers but I couldnt get my hands in.I gave up and did the welding and replace a collapsed wheel bearing which I deemed more important.Three times in four years I,ve had bearings collapse on this flaming thing theres only one set left to replace now and I,m thinking of doing them as it can only be time.How it managed to totally destroy a bearing and keep running on the other one ,twice inner bearings on the rear and now a front outer has gone and the car ran on the remaining bearing .I couldnt hear the noise at first over the mud tyres.

[Jake]

I dont know about the Paddocks versions but when i fitted my D44 relocation cones i glued the nut to the top plate then pushed the bolt up through.
When it was in place i broke the glue and tightened up with a spanner.
Regarding your wheel bearings, for them to be *going* so often sounds like they arn't being fitted correctly or cheap bearings are being used.
For bearings it's not worth saving 50p and changing them 4 times as often.
Hope this helps
 :D

[Disco-andy]

iv fitted two sets of those cones now and its a pain, i did it by weging the nut and plate in roughly then shoveing a pointy thing in to center it. after that its a lot off small turns with two open ended spanners. good luck.
My 200tdi went through wheel baring for a past time too, are they dry when you take them out? sounds like its worth adding lots of grease...maybe?

[L90OOK]

Are you changing the hub seal when you change the bearing?  If not you will probably find the grease is leaking out the back of the hub.
I changed my first wheel bearing, in June, on my 110 after 7years of ownership.
Are you doing much wading or leaving the vehicle stood for long periods?
I would ensure you pack the hubs with Marine grease & check them more often!

I had no problems fitting my D44 dislocation cones :-s although I do have hands the size of shovels  :lol:   Sounds like you need a mate round to lend a second pair of hands  :D

[Jake]

I had no problems fitting my D44 dislocation cones :-s although I do have hands the size of shovels  :lol:   Sounds like you need a mate round to lend a second pair of hands  :D

On Defender vehicles, fitting cones is very simple because the top spring seat is easy to get at.
On Discovery and Range Rovers the spring seat is covered by the inner wing.
Its do-able, but tight
 :D

[johnpirate]

I,m going to have another look later in the week when there is someone put an extra hand in there.The bearings I have replaced one a year over a three year period so I,m not really complaining apart from the fact that the rears ruined the stubaxles before I heard them another joy of mud tyres noises arn't noticed until it is too late to avoid damage.Alot of the problems relate to a previous owner who cocked up so many jobs .It was six months before I got it to a stage where I could trust it to get me to work and I only travel a mile and a half.He cured an airleak in the fuel line by pouring glue over the spot where the pipe comes out of the sender unit even though it was obviously rotten the pipes were perished.He removed the sedimentor from the line because he didnt think there was a need for it.The lighting circuit burn out after another of his cock ups. Everytime sees it he says it needs work because I take it off road and they are not made for it :shock: .The thing is everyone else in the pub have now seen the standard of his work and wont let him near their cars.

[Range Rover Blues]

Are you using Timken or SKF bearings? if you are using the hong-kong-fuey ones then I'm not surprised they aren't lasting.  INSIST on branded ones.

Do you have big tyres? for some reason Tim goes through a lot more bearings than I do running on big tyres.  The Defender 200TDi had the bearings further apart from what I can figure out, this would have made them stronger for the big tyres.

[boss]

i dont think dislocation cones are worth it! when the spring dislocates there is only the weight of the wheel providing traction.....i got x-eng springs....easeyer to fit than a cone and they provide more traction/stability when a dislocation cone would come in to play.

[Range Rover Blues]

I'd like the X-Eng springs but first I have to sort out ARB disconnects.

[boss]

if you get the x-eng springs speak to david at llama4x4 about his rough country shocks. hes got some that extend to 11"!

[Jake]

Oh dear, i feel a big droop Vs lockers debate coming on  :roll:
 :lol:

[L90OOK]

i dont think dislocation cones are worth it! when the spring dislocates there is only the weight of the wheel providing traction.....i got x-eng springs....easeyer to fit than a cone and they provide more traction/stability when a dislocation cone would come in to play.

Dislocation cones or relocations cones are worth every penny.  I am not interested in droop travel but as I have +2" lift the springs had a tendancy to pop out at extreme articulation.  My relocation cones guide them back in position, so I don't have to mess out in mud trying to put in springs that have popped out :roll: ...also they are allot cheaper than X-Sping (they don't make them for a 110 yet anyway  :roll: )

Having said that I think the X-spring is excellent if you are looking for extreme articulation & traction on a budget...personally I have already spent the money & have ARB lockers fitted  :D

[L90OOK]

Oh dear, i feel a big droop Vs lockers debate coming on  :roll:
 :lol:

We have seen this somewhere before    :twisted:

[Chris Putt]

Think I may have just found whats going to to on my disco when A) I get over glandular fever finally B) I then do lots of work in order to facilitate monies to put them on!

[boss]

are diff locks actually worth it???

[clbarclay]

are diff locks actually worth it???

Depends what your doing.

[Jake]

are diff locks actually worth it???

Yes, every penny
It'll be the best thing you ever buy
Expensive but well worth it
 :D

[L90OOK]

are diff locks actually worth it???

Yes, every penny
It'll be the best thing you ever buy
Expensive but well worth it
 :D

Hell...here we go again... :roll:  :lol:   #-o

[Disco_Stu]

This is a guide to fitting Devon cones. May be helpful to you.

Stu.


http://forum.difflock.com/viewtopic.php?t=9064&highlight=dislocation

[Xtremeteam]

are diff locks actually worth it???

they are worth every penny

wouldnt drive a truck without lockers