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« on: September 06, 2007, 17:33:35 »
I see the do-gooders are at it again, apaerntly tazering is against peoples human rights and the police shouldnt use them because out of the millions of daily tazerings the US police dish out, one or two people have died from an unrelated problem.

The way I see it, when faced with a threat the police will deply a tazer where they may previously have used leathal force.

So it comes down to

Tazered, .000000001% you might die
Shot 99.9% chance you WILL die

AFAIK if you put yourself ina position to need tazering you deserve it anyhow, and i've survived 45Kv shocks at heaftier currents than that.

So, Yes or no?
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2007, 17:40:17 »
YES !!!

Tazer the do-gooders 1st !!

offenders should be given one chance to comply with the police when asked to, if they don't tazer them then continue questioning when they come round  :twisted:

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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2007, 17:43:23 »
Gets my vote
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2007, 18:14:49 »
The Chief Constable of North Wales Brundstrom was tasered as a demonstration, & another Chief Constable has also been filmed in the same situation.
If they're willing to go through it, why not issue them??



But, can we have them in A&E too ple-e-a-a-se?
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2007, 18:26:38 »
Best bit of kit we have!!! :wink:



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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2007, 19:05:48 »
why not put tazers in the counters at HMV?  anyone who picks up anything from a big brother celebrity ...
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2007, 19:06:41 »
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
The Chief Constable of North Wales Brundstrom was tasered as a demonstration, & another Chief Constable has also been filmed in the same situation.
If they're willing to go through it, why not issue them??



But, can we have them in A&E too ple-e-a-a-se?


Surely you have Drs that can override the saftey on the AEDs?

We blew onw up that was due for scrapping seeing if you can cook with them - you can! Emptied 4 battery packed into one burger.

You can also put a paddle on the deck, other on the body of the ambulance and zap anyone leaning on it.
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2007, 20:44:15 »
I give it a big thumbs up, but perhaps a bit more voltage to go with it! Lets face it, if the Police are prepared to use it on you, i guess you probably deserve it! Every officer that wants to carry one should be allowed to! May have saved some needless deaths of officers in the last few years!

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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2007, 21:53:47 »
Yes, but a qualified yes, only if we 'the people' may have arms suitable for our defence as well. The arms race between the criminals and police leaves the public ever more vunerable. And saying call the police just doesn't wash anymore.

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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2007, 22:50:39 »
I will refrain from any kind of comment on this matter, apart from 'cattle prods' :shock:

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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2007, 22:58:22 »
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'cattle prods' :shock:


Just as as good, Im sure they could be put to fantastic use sorting drunken yobs out in the evening :wink:  :wink:

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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2007, 23:07:16 »
I've said it before... Bring back the stocks.... :wink:
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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2007, 23:12:47 »
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I've said it before... Bring back the stocks.... :wink:


Totally agree with you there DG. Humiliation would work. They wouldn't like quite so tough then.

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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2007, 23:29:57 »
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I've said it before... Bring back the stocks.... :wink:


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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2007, 23:36:09 »
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Quote from: "discograham"
I've said it before... Bring back the stocks.... :wink:


Totally agree with you there DG. Humiliation would work. They wouldn't like quite so tough then.


There's a set not too far from me, we could put them on the (raised) Cathedral walls every Saturday afternoon & have a 'scrote an hour' in them.

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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2007, 00:20:16 »
Taser - YES

Armed - DEFINITELY

Shoot to kill - WHY NOT, anything else would be a waste of all that training

If a person is close enough to be tasered then the probability of them commiting the alleged crime is high enough to shoot them and remove them from society and the gene pool

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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2007, 01:01:40 »
tazers are  8)  8)  8)

I also think the police should have special ram cars to hit joyriders headon and not get hurt  :twisted:

or the ones they have in the state with a graber on the front ,they ram the car from the back then stick the brakes on :twisted:  :twisted:
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2007, 01:04:18 »
Absolutley, shame I cant buy one :twisted:

My father's got the best idea, bring back national service, old style that is, not the cr(rubbish) that they put on the tv

The actual training methods used in the 50's and 60's
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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2007, 09:12:39 »
Big YES to tazers,
my better half is a copper and i know i will sleep better at night knowing she is packing heat, rather than a can of police issue hairspray. The criminal element have the justice system on there side, why not give the police the tools they need to do there job and  LET them do there job. Nuff said :smack:

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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2007, 10:42:42 »
Id say yes.

For me, if you are asked to stop by the police, or desist from your current actions and you refuse, then you lose your human/civil rights.
If the outcome then is that you get tasered,shot,beat up , then its your fault, and no reason to bleat about it.

Personally, if Im requested to stop, I stop. They ask questions, you answer them, if you were being a bad boy mebbe you get nicked, mebbe you dont, then you go. Its simple.

If I ran, I wouldnt be surprised if bad things started to happen. Id deserve it.

Tasers, definitely. Gas sprays, definitely.Guns(in moderation)

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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2007, 10:59:32 »
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Id say yes.

For me, if you are asked to stop by the police, or desist from your current actions and you refuse, then you lose your human/civil rights.
If the outcome then is that you get tasered,shot,beat up , then its your fault, and no reason to bleat about it.

If I ran, I wouldnt be surprised if bad things started to happen. Id deserve it.

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Sounds like you'd enjoy reading David Copperfield then? :lol:
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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2007, 13:11:23 »
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Shoot to kill - WHY NOT, anything else would be a waste of all that training


No such thing... or rather... there is no distinction between shoot to kill and anything else... every time a trained firearm user (police, army etc) pull the trigger they are aiming at the "Centre of Mass" generally about the sternum or belly. That way it maximises the chance of a hit.

Deliberately shooting someone in arm, leg, or head is for Hollywood or "Coup de Grace" in SAS assault.

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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2007, 14:29:12 »
I used to think this was a good 'weapon of choice', but apparently is 'not correct for British Police' use.

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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2007, 15:59:46 »
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I used to think this was a good 'weapon of choice', but apparently is 'not correct for British Police' use.

http://www.pepperball.com/


Was watching something on them the other day, looks good. get bored and load them up with paintballs :)
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« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2007, 17:08:31 »
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I used to think this was a good 'weapon of choice', but apparently is 'not correct for British Police' use.

http://www.pepperball.com/


Who says it's not appropriate??

The Government?, ACPO?, or a group like 'Liberty'

it's a good bet that the Police Federation, the 'bobbies on the beat', etc..... haven't been consulted??
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« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2007, 17:21:59 »
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these are excellent- we use them at work to cure hang overs. they really would be the dogs nuts on a friday night scuffle in most city centres. so funny to see chavs wondering around with there noses bleeding! appart from that it really is about time we armed the police with anything it takes for them to do there job and sod the bleeding hearts. go the northern irish route and put the army on the streets (obviously after getting them back from whatever sand pit the government has sent them to).
just my two pence anyway. :twisted:
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« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2007, 18:26:05 »
YES! YES! YES!

I'm interested to see that at the time of posting, seven people voted No. Your comments please???
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