Towing Limits with a 90

[central defender]

I have a G plate 90 200Tdi. Does anybody know the towing limit for this. I have had about 4 different answers from books/haynes manual and friends.

It would appear the 90 and 110 can tow 3500kgs how can they be the same? Confused!!!

[martha focker]

i tow a rangie classic if that helps 8)

[clbarclay]

3500kg is correct provided the trailer has at least over run breaks. Not sure about defenders, but on a RRC if you have couple breaks then you can tow 4000kg. Doesn't matter what the vehicle is if the trail doesn't have any breaks then the maximum is only 750kg.

Towing weight is not necisserily linked to physical size of vehicle. IIRC G wagons are only rated a 2800kg but are a substantial vehicles compared to a defender and cope well with nearer 4000kg over road tracks, wet grass or on tarmac. Obviously you don't go towing 3500kg behind something like a golf, the towing weight is perhaps as much or more a legal limit that a physical limit.

[tom38]

think you will find defender will be able to tow 4 tonnes with coupled brakes the same as rrc but yes 3500 max otherwise

[Bush Tucker Man]

By 'Coupled Brakes', what is meant is either Air, or Vacuum operated (on the trailer, not the Defender)

However, air-brakes for a Defender are a (circa) £3,000 option, if memory serves me correctly

[clbarclay]

From what I understand you can also use electricly operated brakes for couple brakeing. The important feature is that the trailer brekes are operated by the brake pedal.

[Lumbering Jack]

I may be wrong but am fairly sure electrically operated brakes aren't legal on trailers in th U.K.  though they are very popular in the U.S and Canada.

Daft thing is they can legally tow much heavier trailers than we can over here yet heir braking systems aren't considered safe enough!  :?:

[crazymac]

The americans do tow bigger loads than us, but the Hummer has a max limit of 1600KG I'm told??

The weight limits are linked to two wheel/ four wheel drive, for example

most Landrovers can tow 3500KG braked, but an L200 can only pull 2700KG braked. This is because they have selectable 4x4

Theoretically a series landy can only tow 2700 as well!!

[Range Rover Blues]

The towing limit of any car is determined by it's ability to set off up a pre-determined gradient with a trailer weighing that amount, don't ask me what gradient.

Because of the low-box all LR products are just having a laugh here.  I've seen 3.5RRC towing combine harvesters out of fields and heard about the police moving 38tonne truck up the hard shoulder.

The reason it's 3,500 kg is that's the most you can tow legally on over-run brakes, hence earlier RRC could tow 4,000kg with hydraulic coupled brakes.

It's not also the limit within the catagory B+E on your licence, I may be a littl eoff here but I don't think a cat B car can tow more than 3,500 Kg, over 7'6" wide or 23' long.

[Bush Tucker Man]

I may be wrong but am fairly sure electrically operated brakes aren't legal on trailers in th U.K.  though they are very popular in the U.S and Canada.

No, they're not, as a lot of boat trailers apparantly aren't road-legal when supplied with a US built boat

Because of the low-box all LR products are just having a laugh here.  I've seen 3.5RRC towing combine harvesters out of fields and heard about the police moving 38tonne truck up the hard shoulder.

Seen them do it a few times, it's still fascinating to watch.
The most I've done (it was with the 50th) was about 26tons. A laden 6x4 tanker that had tried to cut over a verge & had spun itself 4 little holes.
Luckily I was on dry tarmac

[central defender]

Thanks guys for all the replies, good stuff (as usual!!! )

So 3500kg it is then, still fancy a go at the 6x4 tanker tow mmmmnnnn

cheers

[Bush Tucker Man]

So 3500kg it is then, still fancy a go at the 6x4 tanker tow mmmmnnnn

cheers

Oh, it pulled sideways, as initially I wasn't in-line with it.

1500RPM in low-first & it came out on second attempt

[Range Rover Blues]

I may be wrong but am fairly sure electrically operated brakes aren't legal on trailers in th U.K.  though they are very popular in the U.S and Canada.

No, they're not, as a lot of boat trailers apparantly aren't road-legal when supplied with a US built boat

Not sure on that, as I know a lot of the 5th wheel caravans over here also have the electric brakes and I don't think they are replaced.  In that link above to the notes about trailers states that the regulations do not stipulate how the brakes are applied :?

One reason US boat trailers are illegal is their physical size but TBH no-one has given me a definetive answer on electric brakes.

[Terranosaurus]

I have seen something somewhere about the HD (heavy duty) option defenders being 3500kg but the standard are a bit lower, might only be on the very latest ones though.

[madmatt]

I have seen something somewhere about the HD (heavy duty) option defenders being 3500kg but the standard are a bit lower, might only be on the very latest ones though.

That applies to Gross vehicle weight not Gross trailer weight. All defenders can legally tow 3500kgs on over run brakes.

Normal 110's have a gross vehicle weight of 3050kg

Heavy duty 110's have a gross vehicle weight of 3500kg.