Military Jate rings

[Iain C]

I bought some military Jate rings for the rear of my disco at Sodbury, and of course forgot that my towbar mounting uses the hole that they bolt through.

They are the smooth, widened shackle style, stronger and kinder on recovery gear, not the civvy right angle bolt together jobbies.

Has anyone succesfully tried to modify these so that they will fit along with a towbar?  Or is that a silly idea on recovery gear?

Or for that matter, does anyone want to swap some civvy ones for military ones as I think I could add a couple of washers to the civvy ines and pack them out so they fit...

[Darren]

If you've got a tow bar on the rear then JATE rings seem a bit unnecessary. Fit a decent ball and pin tow ball, which will be more than adequate for recovery purposes.

[Skibum346]

BEtter solution is to invest in a removable towbar mate!  :lol:

[Iain C]

If you've got a tow bar on the rear then JATE rings seem a bit unnecessary. Fit a decent ball and pin tow ball, which will be more than adequate for recovery purposes.

Hmm, I was told that technically a towbar is not rated for full-on recovery work.  I appreciate that it will probably be fine for 99% of stuff, but not perfect.

Dammit, ball and pin hitch...I KNEW there was something else I was after at Sodbury!!!

[Iain C]

Sorry, me again.  A quick trawl of the web has shown that as well as donig the standard item, Dingocroft also stock one with a wider opening, perhaps meaning that with a bt of careful grinding we could be in business to "modify" them...

Standard...


Wider...

[Darren]

Hmm, I was told that technically a towbar is not rated for full-on recovery work.  I appreciate that it will probably be fine for 99% of stuff, but not perfect.

It's more likely that that's related to a standard tow ball, rather than the tow bar. The tow bar on a Disco is very substantial and is definitely up to proper recovery usage when a decent attachment point is used.

[Terranosaurus]

IIRC jate rings aren't really meant for recovery either, they're really for strapping landys down with.

[stageonesimmo]

I've said it before and at the risk of becoming boring - I'll say it again - they are TIE-DOWN/LASHING RINGS!

I wouldn't pull my disco out with a set thats for damn certain they just aren't rated at that kind of load and could very easily shear off and come back at you at a rare old rate of knots...

But, you takes your chances and if you can get a set that come with a certificate of conformity with a rated load that would give you a decent enough pull when used as a pair, then go for it - I doubt the military ones are rated much above 250 kilos each (I cant find the figure at work - I've looked believe me!), and I'm 99% certain you wont find any with C of C's attached!

[davidlandy]

250 kilos only?

suspect that they are much more than that.

I would say that the JAte rings are a little different and more substantial than the tie down rings supplied on a new LR. the military use them to lift fully laden 110s

[stageonesimmo]

Yeah your right we do, but lifting is a whole different kettle of kippers to pulling out of a bog.  There's definitely nowt special about the JATE rings fitted to mil rovers - take a close look at a set if you can, a mars bar to anyone who finds one with a decent weld on it..............

I'll dig out the AESP's again at work and see if I can find what the rating actually is..........

[Bush Tucker Man]

IIRC jate rings aren't really meant for recovery either, they're really for strapping landys down with.

You're thinking of the standard Lashing Rings (the egg-shaped affairs with the 2 holes)