Sumo Bars

[crazymac]

Having just (severely) bent my track rod I decided to invest in a pair of sumo bars 8)

I contacted Ian Sykes by email to which he promptly replied and ordered the pair for £87 delivered on Monday evening, they arrived with me this morning so well pleased.

I've already started to fit and I must say, they are a substantial piece of kit.

I'll get some piccies tomorrow.

Has anyone elso got them fitted??

[denviks]

funny enough mine arrived today from mail order4x4  



they weight 22kg apparently  :shock: .... they dont look like this anymore....they are now red in colour  :lol:  :lol:

[peasey]

mate they look awesome cant wait to bend my standard ones :lol:

[TDi90]

yes i got them on my 90.
worth every penny.
R

[mobi]

i ordered my from paddocks on monday and still not got them  

[Xtremeteam]

IIRC the only place to buy genuine Genuine "sumo" bars is from ian sykes,

other ones are just copies

[denviks]

i get the feeling mine are gonna be good enough for what i wan them for  :?  

[crazymac]

IIRC the only place to buy genuine Genuine "sumo" bars is from ian sykes,

other ones are just copies

There are licenced outlets, see here

http://www.4allfours.co.uk/masterfr.htm

Thing is though, with free postage from mail order 4x4, they work out at just over £85. but the genuine items from Ian are £87. delivered!

[denviks]

:? .... but a straight bar is the same as the next straight bar if made from the same steel aint it .....its just brand names and the price you pay surely????

[Jake]

i get the feeling mine are gonna be good enough for what i wan them for  :?  

They look like Britpart versions to me  
If so the bars are great but there's been some bad talk regarding the track rod ends.
With that in mind, just keep your eye on them for wear
 8)

[davidlandy]

the only bad thing i heard about them was that due to the increased strength of the bars the next weakest part was the track rod end.

you can drive with a bent steering arm, but not a snapped TRend.

I have the sumo bars on mine - a very worthwhile investment!

[beatmasterdave]

whats the best deal you guys found for the pair? im about to order mine. just to make double sure (yes i already asked this, but i cant rick the gamble), the bar behind the axle is exactly the same as the bar closest to the front? right? lol :oops:  


..ooo and i already have the one right at the front, and used it a little bit against stumps etc. they are very impressive! 8)

[crazymac]

:? .... but a straight bar is the same as the next straight bar if made from the same steel aint it .....its just brand names and the price you pay surely????

Yeh, your probably right but the price difference is only £2.00 If it was £20.00 then I would go for the cheaper version, but for £2.00!

Chances are they are the same, but as a small point, I'd rather give my money to Ian for the originals that a large company that have bought them in from britpart or sum such.

[crazymac]

whats the best deal you guys found for the pair? im about to order mine. just to make double sure (yes i already asked this, but i cant rick the gamble), the bar behind the axle is exactly the same as the bar closest to the front? right? lol :oops:  


..ooo and i already have the one right at the front, and used it a little bit against stumps etc. they are very impressive! 8)

Its the same construction, but a fair bit longer!

Ian sent me this

Thank you for your interest in Sumo bars

 

Our bars don’t have clamps, we use lock nuts which come with the bars.

As yours is a 200 Disco I need to know what length the front drag link bar is.

Either 760 or 835, easily recognized. The 835 has two Track rod end ball joints, the 760 has one, at the wheel end and the steering drop arm has a ball NOT the bar, the bar has a swan neck piece with a hole in it for the ball’s taper.

 

Prices is £95 inclusive of TNT delivery (next day) and vat. By mail would be £8.00 cheaper.

 

I can accept visa/ mastercard but not switch.

 

Give me a call one evening, (he did supply a number but I felt I shouldn't post it here)

 

Thanks again

 

Ian Sykes

[daveyravey]

Please excuse my ignorance, but do you still run a steering damper with these bars ?

[Jake]

Please excuse my ignorance, but do you still run a steering damper with these bars ?

Yes
You should be supplied with a clamp on bracket for your damper.
 8)

[extreme90]

you can still bend the sumo bars aswel  :lol:
i managed it  :twisted:, and didnt even touch the trackrod  :shock:
ah well  :roll:
there well worth it tho, i bent mine that many times it eventualy snapped in half  :P
dan

[davidlandy]

i heard that due to the weight of the bars it meant that the damper may not be required.

this could had been an old wives tale though

[denviks]

i heard that due to the weight of the bars it meant that the damper may not be required.

this could had been an old wives tale though

its not a wives tale....i know 2 disco's that are running without dampers   .......but it doesnt always have that effect on all....just hoping mine doesnt need the damper......at 22kg im sure it will take out most of it  

[J B]

ive been running the bars form mail order4x4 for over a year now, no damper fitted, fells fine on the road, much more responsive than with a damper

[beast5680]

i heard that due to the weight of the bars it meant that the damper may not be required.

this could had been an old wives tale though

its not a wives tale....i know 2 disco's that are running without dampers   .......but it doesnt always have that effect on all....just hoping mine doesnt need the damper......at 22kg im sure it will take out most of it  

is it me or are the replys in this thread out of sync :?

[denviks]

i heard that due to the weight of the bars it meant that the damper may not be required.

this could had been an old wives tale though

its not a wives tale....i know 2 disco's that are running without dampers   .......but it doesnt always have that effect on all....just hoping mine doesnt need the damper......at 22kg im sure it will take out most of it  

is it me or are the replys in this thread out of sync :?

you is right mate  :shock:  :shock:  :shock: now i said this before you

[davidlandy]

something wierd goin on in this thread!

[crazymac]

I was going to make up a new bracket for my damper as I wrecked it getting it off (I have the relocation kit from Wizard) Might try it without 1st see how it goes??

[crazymac]

Here are some pics of mine, you'll notice in one of them (hopefully the 1st if I do this right) just how badly I bent the track rod :twisted:  :roll:

[Range Rover Blues]

I've had a pair of these for a year now and not got round to fitting them :roll:

[denviks]

well i can 100% confirm that is NOT a old wives tale about fitting HD steerings means you can do without your damper.

i had mine fitted to day and its as smooth as anything without the damper on. no kicking with bumps etc.

[Range Rover Blues]

What tyres have you got on?

Any lift? what are your swivles like?

All these things will effect bump-steer and wheel shimmy, I know people who don't have steering dampers on failry standard cars.  I know other cars that need H/D steering dampers, mine included.

That said the roads round here are shocking and that's probably a big part of it.

Anyway, does it drive any nicer with the damper removed?

[denviks]

this v8 disco is new to me. at the moment she is running 235/85/16 bfg at's but will soo move over to the same size mud tyres.  :twisted:

the roads around here are not much different to anywhere else....i did try a few roads today that would make any truck bounce and kick and it was smooth. if im honest there is no noticable difference between with or without the damper which in my eyes is te best possile result.....  just one less thing to break again  

[Range Rover Blues]

Cool, might try to sumon the energy to fit mine then.  I fitted a Defender damper and I get a wheel shake on RH turns from the RH wheel, annoying but not severe.  At one point I refitted the RR one as well :shock: