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« on: October 30, 2007, 19:35:55 »
There is some justice left in the world:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7069289.stm
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2007, 19:38:41 »
:(biglaugh):    :(scared):
Did everyone see that?  Because I will NOT be doing it again!

 

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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2007, 20:25:55 »
Throw the book at him :evil: .





Sorry, can't help sniggering though.
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2007, 20:37:29 »
It's gonna be pretty difficult for him to get away with this I feel. The magistrates should throw the book at him ~ maximum fine and driving ban ~ otherwise the law looks to be an ass (again).
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2007, 21:17:18 »
:(biglaugh):  :(biglaugh):  :(biglaugh):  :(bigwicked):

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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2007, 21:38:02 »
What an 'own goal'! I've met him, and in all fairness, he is what is called a 'copper's cop'.
But, he is covered by the same rules as all of us.
He know falls into the 'Silly [!Expletive Deleted!]' category :roll:

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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2007, 21:45:05 »
sorry to pee on ur fires but id be supprised if he gets done for it
we had local traffic cop clocked @ over 150 on local motorway he was not on duty but in police pursuit car
he defence "i was testing the car" he got away with it

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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2007, 21:50:47 »
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sorry to pee on ur fires but id be supprised if he gets done for it
we had local traffic cop clocked @ over 150 on local motorway he was not on duty but in police pursuit car
he defence "i was testing the car" he got away with it

simon


I remember the press reports on that. I have to say I was very surprised he didn't get found guilty.
With the Med Hughes incident, with him being such a high profile figure, they would have to take it all the way to show there is no bias. If he has any sense, he'd put his hands up at court and accept whats coming.

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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2007, 22:51:54 »
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I dont think they would DARE not prosecute this. If they try and pass this off in anyway it'll be a worse own goal than it already is. He needs to just put his hand up and admit it, which will probobly do him more good than harm.
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2007, 01:08:20 »
I agree, this is the guy who is after us all for speeding.  If he gets away with it, I'll use it as my defense if I ever get caught.

Get done as I do, not as I say should be the moral here.
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2007, 10:55:41 »
he he he well it proves we are all human. He should just put his hands up and take the fine.
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2007, 11:38:34 »
this was on GMTV this morning
they had the clever lawyer (aka mr loophole) he seems to think its only HIS car and might not be him but the lawyer has offered his services FOC
he said as far as he aware no summonds (sp) has been issued to the police officer


spose we can only hope

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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2007, 12:06:28 »
If it was his car, he'll know who was driving, unless it had been stolen.
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2007, 12:34:35 »
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There is some justice left in the world:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7069289.stm

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On the radio this morning they were saying 90+ in a 60, thats banning country, and totally without excuse...

BTW M27/M3 users the time/distance cam's if not live now are expected online before Chrismas.

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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2007, 12:46:42 »
He got caught in North Wales .Their Chief Constable Richard Brunstrom would make speeding a hanging offence.Thanks to him the respect for police and some laws is at an all time low.This guy will take pleasure in prosecuting another Chief Constable.His men on speeding checks are known as the Talivan.
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2007, 13:00:13 »
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BTW M27/M3 users the time/distance cam's if not live now are expected online before Chrismas.


cant wait for that then  :(  :(  :(  pople flying up to the start of te samera zon and then breaking real hard  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:
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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2007, 13:14:30 »
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sorry to pee on ur fires but id be supprised if he gets done for it
we had local traffic cop clocked @ over 150 on local motorway he was not on duty but in police pursuit car
he defence "i was testing the car" he got away with it

simon

That officer was on duty, the CC in this case was not!
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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2007, 13:15:14 »
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BTW M27/M3 users the time/distance cam's if not live now are expected online before Chrismas.

What cameras are these, I don't know of any SPECS installations at the Southern end used for speed enforcement, there are SPECS temporaries on the M3 at the M25 interchange though?

There is a Highways Agency Ramp Metering Test program at the M27/M3 end but this has nothing to do with speed enforcement.
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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2007, 13:39:37 »
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He got caught in North Wales .Their Chief Constable Richard Brunstrom would make speeding a hanging offence.Thanks to him the respect for police and some laws is at an all time low.This guy will take pleasure in prosecuting another Chief Constable.His men on speening checks are known as the Talivan.


Funnily enough He's not quite as keen at prosecuting his own drivers as he is joe public. Nth wales has one of the highest Police vehicle speeding offences in the country but the lowest number of summons to serving police officers. Including Brunsom who's police driver was clocked doing 52 in a 30 zone whilst taking brunstom home. He also had two reporters arrested for following him and using a speed gun to clock his speed. which they claimed was 92 in a 50 zone on the A55.
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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2007, 13:53:46 »
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BTW M27/M3 users the time/distance cam's if not live now are expected online before Chrismas.

What cameras are these, I don't know of any SPECS installations at the Southern end used for speed enforcement, there are SPECS temporaries on the M3 at the M25 interchange though?

There is a Highways Agency Ramp Metering Test program at the M27/M3 end but this has nothing to do with speed enforcement.


The cam's have been on the gantry's for some time, J5-J7 & J7-J8 they've even painted truvelo squares where the surviellence camera's can monitor them, not the normal SPECS as most people know them, add in the green pole cam's (HA as againbst traffic masters blue pole cams) which are also time/distance as well...

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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2007, 13:55:13 »
AFAIK There are no SPECs cams on the M27 or are there plans to be.

There ARE time in transit cams for Romanse which have been in operation for about 2 months, hence the 'Time to J1 M27 - 16 Mins' signs up of late.

Both Romanse and Trafficmaster use APNR for traffic flow measurement eg it'll read x plates at junction 7, tehn look for those plates again atthe ext gantry to get average traffic speed.

If there were Really SPECS cam going up on the M27 and going live we'd have heard about it long before.
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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2007, 14:03:52 »
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AFAIK There are no SPECs cams on the M27 or are there plans to be.

There ARE time in transit cams for Romanse which have been in operation for about 2 months, hence the 'Time to J1 M27 - 16 Mins' signs up of late.

Both Romanse and Trafficmaster use APNR for traffic flow measurement eg it'll read x plates at junction 7, tehn look for those plates again atthe ext gantry to get average traffic speed.

If there were Really SPECS cam going up on the M27 and going live we'd have heard about it long before.


As I said, not the normal SPECS as known, Romanse cams data feed is considered to be accurate enough....As is the HA green pole system as both use ANPR at fixed locations...


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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2007, 14:27:23 »
Yes, they're ramp metering, not speed enforcement.  It's a pilot test to study traffic flow patterns.
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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2007, 14:45:37 »
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Yes, they're ramp metering, not speed enforcement.  It's a pilot test to study traffic flow patterns.


Sounds like a quiet, behind scenes step towards road charges.

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« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2007, 15:15:44 »
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Yes, they're ramp metering, not speed enforcement.  It's a pilot test to study traffic flow patterns.


Sounds like a quiet, behind scenes step towards road charges.


Actually having looked at the sigsn 'xx mins to Jxx' I thought no way can that be right but it is dead on, its actually pretty handy.

Although last week at J9 it should have gone from '45 Mins to J4' to 'Abandon All hope Ye who pass here'

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« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2007, 15:20:09 »
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Although last week at J9 it should have gone from '45 Mins to J4' to 'Abandon All hope Ye who pass here'

LOL, I was travelling to Devon from Fleet last week and got stuck at the M3/M25 Interchange where it gloriously pronounced a delay of 15mins due to an accident.  Took more than an hour to get through and as ever whatever had caused it had long since gone.

worse still, a Road Angel 9000 I was testing happily announced that Westbound there were no issues but that it was heavy Traffic Eastbound.  Which was useful as there was nowt wrong Easbound  :?
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« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2007, 16:19:29 »
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Sounds like a quiet, behind scenes step towards road charges.


Yes thats also in the package thats been being trialed.

The fact Microsense and Siemens (both have local offices/research units)use the M27 corridor as a test bed as the traffic flows are very variable means that various systems have been in place for years, some have failed others have been expanded.
One ANPR system that was to rival SPECS fell down on vunerablity, the local kids smashed the bridge mounted cameras and cut the cables near to us at home, now they mount them lower/under the parapit in stronger enclosures, though the really new systems use such small cameras you probably wouldn't even notice them amounst the other junk...

One system was supposedly even able to estimate tread wear, though none seem to be able to catch non-indicating lane swappers or hand-held mobile phone users, yet.

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« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2007, 16:31:15 »
One day the powers that be, might invent some system of Policing the roads. That way they could stop more than just speeding, maybe catch dangerous drivers, drunk drivers, unroadworthy vehicles and other dangers on the road.

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« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2007, 00:28:20 »
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One day the powers that be, might invent some system of Policing the roads. That way they could stop more than just speeding, maybe catch dangerous drivers, drunk drivers, unroadworthy vehicles and other dangers on the road.


Yuo mean like police officers in police cars? that was SOOOOoooo last century :lol:
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