Swivel grease?

[marjan]

With me being new to the green oval brigade you lot are going to get a lot of silly questions from me - it's your fault for persuading me to leave the Suzuki troop  :D  :D  :D .

The swivels on my 90 are seeping slightly and I have read that it is ok to put swivel grease in them instead of oil, is this correct ?.

[fasthands]

One shot grease is what you need!! I have used this works spot on most L/R suppliers have it, and will know what you want if asking for One shot grease!

[Terranosaurus]

Mark - I've just listed THIS on ebay. Could drop it down to you in Cas.

[Litch]

Yes, one shot grease will stop the leak but what you are doing is masking the problem, not fixing it.

One shot grease is fine and I have no problems with it but if you are loosing oil then there are several things that could have happened. Either the seal has failed, the swivel is shot (pitted or just plain rusty) or the pin and/or bearing are worn (allows movement between the seal and the swivel). Investigate what is wrong and then decide on your course of action as it is possible that it is more serious than just a leak.

Assuming all is ok and it is just a shot seal and you decide to leave it to use the grease option then look at it like this. If oil can get out then water can get in which does not do the internals any good which will ultimately result in a rebuild sometime anyway.

[Eeyore]

As a thought, if you swivels are seeping, it could be a sign that the preload on your swivel bearings need adjusting.

Easy to check - jack up one corner and grab the wheel top and bottom. Test for movement. If you grab eiter side of the wheel you will check the wheel bearings or steering. If there is any movement, you'll need to check if it's the wheel bearings or the hub moving slightly on the swivel (you may need help with this bit!).

I may be just a perishing seal in the hub, but in my expereince it's been the swivel pins playing games that have caused oily leaks.

Cheers
 8)
Eeyore

[Saffy]

Series balls have oil, but is it not correct that defenders used one shot grease as standard anyway?

[Les Henson]

Series should always have EP90, early defenders had the same, but then later ones were One Shot.
Litch is right - you are only masking the problem and any wear you have now will get worse and then the grease will leak out. Repairing a hub is a messy job anyway, doing it with One Shot in the hubs is worse.


Les.

[marjan]

Mark - I've just listed THIS on ebay. Could drop it down to you in Cas.

Already ordered a pair from a place on Ebay mate, Thanks anyway.

[Litch]

"is it not correct that defenders used one shot grease as standard anyway?"

I think the grease was introduced in the mid 1990's.
Am I not correct in thinking that later 90/110's don't have a drain for the swivels? If that is correct then it will tie up with the introduction of the grease as why would you have a drain for something that cannot be drained when cold?


Like I said earlier, I am not against it and in fact I am going to use it on my 90 when I replace the swivels next week however I would not recomend its use just to cure a leak.

[Les Henson]

Later swivels (Disco anyway) have no drain plug. There is no service replacement interval for swivel grease.


Les.

[lurch_917]

i beg to differ on the disco swivels not having a drain as my m reg 300tdi has drains on them as i have changed from oil to one shot easy job just go for a run first to get the oil hot then shoot the one shot in it will push the oil out of the drains as its denser  
tip= use the saches not the bottle ten on the pipe that comes with it wrap sone tape round one end getting a good seal then just squeeeeeze

[Les Henson]

Disco's later than yours have no drain plug.


Les.

[Range Rover Blues]

Once the one-shot has been in a year it's not much thicker than EP90 anyway.

I've stopped using it though as it's too thick to properly lubricate the uspper swivel.

I use this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Swivel-Hub-Oil-Stops-Leaks-Grease-Landrover-Range-Rover_W0QQitemZ230053257655QQihZ013QQcategoryZ31348QQcmdZViewItem