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« Reply #30 on: December 24, 2007, 16:20:31 »
nah 90,s r ok but i like my paj, as i said it does compete and leaves 90,s and sum 90,s leave me dont matter what you drive if you dont get stuck you havnt tried hard enough!
how many 90,s do you see r modded? 90% of them
how many paj,s do you see modded this way?......not many
i like to be diffrent and does what i want it to do, i done langdale extreme routes,frickley,drumclog ect so it does get me there and enjoy iy and get back, if i get stuck i get stuck i dont care, i always get out, i like to pull all makes of 4x4,s out if there stuck as i get them to help me, you get sum landies owners who think there 90,s are unstopable, poor soulds they should really get out more if they dont get stuck they havnt tried the goods bits,
every1 likes there own 4x4 i have spent alot of cash on mine so love it, and thats that! if i had a 90 i would spend cash on it too but it wopuld just be a 90 like every one elses
SO TO ALL THE 90,S OWNERS......HAPPY XMAS LOL
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« Reply #31 on: December 24, 2007, 17:56:59 »
well there's a 1st Strangerover i have never seen a Delica with a safari on it!!
Looks good though.

Geordie think your wrong about the 90's, some look and are awesome; there are very few Pajs tho that look and are awesome, articulation being the biggest problem.
But have to admit put a locker on the back and almost unstopable.

Merry Christmas one and all
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« Reply #32 on: December 24, 2007, 18:01:46 »
its a Tanabe Snorkel...

and even rarer is the ARB Rear Locker  :D
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« Reply #33 on: December 25, 2007, 16:35:06 »
Hey Strangerover I had a disco exactly the same as yours spent a fortune on until one day I took it to yhe mot tester and he said "well,I can weld it but I dont think machine mart will have enough wire to do the job"and he laughed and ever since then ive avoided discos, but yours might be ok I might have bought a lemon :D
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« Reply #34 on: December 25, 2007, 16:43:14 »
Quote from: "mad geordie"
tricked up or not it won't beat 'every' 90


it wont beat most but will give them a good run for there money! lol

there is always banter about landies n paj,s its better than sum but worse than others!


my 90 beats your paj :lol:

remember drumclog :lol::lol:
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« Reply #35 on: December 25, 2007, 17:11:09 »
yes you did lol but i have spent a few quid and coming back up wor kid!
i did say it beats sum 90 and doesnt others yours just had to be the bloody other lol
see you in drumclog wor kid and fetch your rope ( make sure you tie it to ya front) lol
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« Reply #36 on: December 25, 2007, 17:55:06 »
i say sell the 90 and get a paj.
the paj is more relaible,better to drive,cheeper to buy,
90s are to much money for what they are,,unrelaible,and they rust(rot)like mad
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« Reply #37 on: December 25, 2007, 22:17:40 »
Biggest problem with the paj is snobbery. Not only from the green oval brigade but the public.
EXAMPLE: Group of walkers are passed by a couple of 'tricked up' and battered Landies on a lane somewhere and they don't batter an eyelid. Do the same in a 'tricked' or even a standard Paj and it seems to stick out a mile :evil:

I drive a 90 for work and have a Paj for myself. Both have a long list of pro's and cons but when it comes down to reliability, comfort and value for money the paj always comes out on top in my mind.

Put a standard paj aganst a standard landy with the same tyres and I doubt there will be much difference between the two's offroad capability. The landy's much better front articulation can easily be canceled out by the paj having either a limited slip or locking rear diff as standard :wink:
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« Reply #38 on: December 26, 2007, 00:30:43 »
its an interesting one indeed. in theory i would have the paj. in practice the 90. Lets not forget lady depreciation. buy a 90 with no mot, get it through a test, do some sensible mods and your money is secure. im not certain but i think by jacking up a paj you might de value it!
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« Reply #39 on: December 26, 2007, 08:35:58 »
Ahhh but if you only paid half or even less for your paj compared to a similar plated landy AND you get climate control, heated leather seats, an engine that will get you home and a chassis that isn't full of holes, can't you afford to loose a few pounds in depreciation?
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« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2007, 11:12:50 »
Depriciation is somthing i tend to worry about a little too much! i spent my lifes savings when i was 17 on a 110 CSW V8 for £1000. i put it through a test and sprayed an odd coloured door and sold it on ebay 7 months later for £1750. Bought my TDi 90 for £1500, spent at least £500 on it but i think im still well in the green if i sell it. but i wont do any mods that arent worth doing or can be removed and kept for my next landy.

With any luck an a year or two's time ill be able to sell what ive got, keep £1500 in the bank, spend a grand on another landy and start again!
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« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2008, 19:11:58 »
well ive gota 90 and well happy with it , but my daughter has just persuaded me to get her a paj , so i collect a 2.5 j reg auto swb on fri . soooo cheap in comparison to a landie of same vintage  and yep its got all the toys and none of the rot , all the comfort and quietness  BUT  :? no real character.
i had one of my own for a while and yeah it was faultless , but i wanted to tinker a bit so i got a big box of bolts and an alloy body to do that to  ;)lol.
geordie where you get paj snorkel ?
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« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2008, 21:26:50 »
i was getting them imported, safari copies was getting them for £150 delivered to your door but cant get them now, supplied quite a few peoplw with them too shame cos i had a big list for more
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« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2008, 11:57:49 »
Ah....the old debate!

For me it's Jap Cr*p everytime. No one is doubting the 90's prowess off road.....but I like to be able to stand up straight after I've been driving! Jesus those things are uncomfortable!

The biggest problem is articulation! As already mentioned, the front torsion bars mean a front wheel lifts going over a mole hill!But a rear locker soon takes care of that! I'm not a Paj offroader, I tow with a LWB Paj & off road my L200.

Tyres.....can't vouch for the Paj.....but the L200 is easy to body lift! Mine's on a 2" (ish) suspension lift with a 3" bodylift & wears 35" tyres. Minor rubbing on full lock & max suspension compression, other than that....lovely!!

The biggest problem with the Paj v 90 discussion. Both vehicles are capable, some more so than others......depending on personal modifications. But what doesn't seem to change is the way the majority (Not All!!!  :clap: :clap: ) of Green Oval owners sneer with disdain!

So.....comfortable? Paj wins

Reliability.......Paj Wins!!!

Extreme off road.....7 outta 10 times Land Rovers will win. But then along comes various modded mitsi's & the apple cart is turneth over!!!  :twisted:





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« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2008, 18:15:49 »
i saw that l220 at drumclog! well smart mate, mine has changed abit since the last drumclog but wait for drumclog 9 and you will see it
to me paj,s are good offroad i like them when done up right look well smart, and with difflockers capeable
i love defender 90,s there good looking, capeable, good trucks
i cant belive the banter between paj n 90,s both good trucks as you said, but if i had a choice...


suzuki sj wins every time! :dance:
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« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2008, 18:34:38 »
Ok so im gettin this paj 2.5 auto with 100k on it , it aint had much mechanical tlc , so what should i be looking for apart from the obvious cam belt change and a full fluid change ?
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« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2008, 20:50:46 »
Dont think this will help cos they are both mine! They both go offroad and both go onroad.
1) paj, better looking, comfier/more car like.
2) rangie, 3.9 V8 straight through exhaust ! Grrrrrrr  :lol:
3) paj, MUCH more reliable and doesnt look as though it's spent the last ten years in the sea  :roll:
4) Rangie. as fast as you want to go in something weighing 2 tons and rocks from side to side at traffic light's when you rev it  :twisted: childish but oh sooo much fun  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
5) paj, dog slow with [!Expletive Deleted!] economy
6) real [!Expletive Deleted!] economy
7) paj runs on veg oil  :dance:
8) rangie tows the paj when stuck off road
9) paj tows the rangie when broken down  :oops: :roll:
10) rangie likes to leave bits of itself everywhere it goes.
11) paj makes you hungry everytime you drive it cos it smells like mcdonalds  :lol:

The list goes on mate. They both have good and bad points and wouldnt be without either to be honest. they're like part of the family  :afro:












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« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2008, 21:19:29 »
i must admit i love the sound of the landie v8,s cant beat the burble!




yeah our jeeps are diffrent but maybe its down to the driver!  :shocked:
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« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2008, 22:13:08 »
Must admit that paj of yours still looks awesome!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2008, 09:51:18 »
Well I don't have the Mk2 Pajero but the Mk1 Shogun and I reckon if you put the right stuff on you'll be showing 90s how to do it most of the time.


Here's a pic of mine at Valley Off-Road at Exeter:




And the video of it performing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z58nRxbWxqo

Pajeros don't have articulation simply because it ain't needed - mine has a +2" spring on the back and the torsion bars wound up around the same with +2" shocks all round. Also has a LSD on the back axle.

Also has a Xpajun 90mm body lift and is running 235/85 Insa Turbo Special Tracks although it will take the Fedima Sirocco 35" without further mods to the body


And yes it can thrash 90s in trials - there again it can also be thrashed by them as well


Does it get stuck - of course it does - how else do I find it's limitations :lol: :lol:
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« Reply #50 on: February 08, 2008, 14:18:53 »
...what mudlark doesnt show is all the pix of him being recovered by my 90  :dance:

he he, sorry julian i had to get that in  :afro:

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« Reply #51 on: February 08, 2008, 17:48:15 »
recovery?






but we all get stuck! how many needed a jcb to get you out lol



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Re: paj V 90
« Reply #52 on: February 08, 2008, 19:09:06 »
Gaz really did dig them far to deep  :lol:
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« Reply #53 on: February 08, 2008, 20:23:25 »
they were like graves lol real deep and not very wide once you went in you couldnt even open your door to get out! had to climb out the boot, gaz dug them i tested them good day out lol
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« Reply #54 on: February 08, 2008, 20:54:00 »
JESUS!!!! :shock: :shock:
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« Reply #55 on: February 09, 2008, 11:11:01 »
There is just one important thing that needs mentioning in the Paj v 90 issue. My 90 insurance costs £155 fully comp whereas a quote for a SWB 2.8 Paj came back at £385 and that was the cheapest quote -  :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: paj V 90
« Reply #56 on: February 09, 2008, 11:19:49 »
GRINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #57 on: February 09, 2008, 17:32:20 »
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« Reply #58 on: February 09, 2008, 17:45:54 »
yes you nutter,lift is a bit ott, nightmare on roundabouts
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« Reply #59 on: February 10, 2008, 10:16:14 »
what makes it a monster? big tyres and a lift? so if thats a monster whats mine?
lol
my insurence is only 250 fully comp including mods!
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