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P reg 300 tdi Discovery, very slow, sluggish and standard but i am working on it.......

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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2008, 21:08:01 »
full steering gaurd my vote every time not dan bar type thing think mine was 35 quid from lroi show 2003

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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2008, 22:08:34 »
I have a full guard on, but it will be coming off!

Causes as many problems as it solves, including lifting up the front end in snow and causing a lack of traction and on top of that, you can still bend the steering bars, I did!!

I have sumo bars fitted now as well as the guard, so bomb proof on front but time to remove the guard!
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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2008, 23:58:22 »
The traditional steering gurads don't to anything to protect the track rod or steering damper.

If you want to protect all of the steering with a bolt on guard then the southdown axle guard (or similar guards which goe underneathe the axle) provides superiour protection, but has its own downsides, such as being a horendus mud trap.

Have a good lock at challange trucks, they inveriably all seem to use stronger or strengthed steering bars, but there would seem to be just as many not using a steering guard as there are those that do.


I got a defender swan neck and steering damper for my RRC, cut of the old damper mount on the track rod and sleeved both track + drag rods with some tube, its not the most robust setup, but should be plenty of pay and plays.
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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2008, 10:44:57 »
i went for and would recommend the paddocks bars. they are NOT just a tube you slide over the old and very thin standard bars.
http://www.paddockspares.com/scp/OFF_ROAD/HD_Steering_Rods.html

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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2008, 12:27:51 »
In addition to our chap above - buy a solid steering bar of a thicker gauge. I sleeved mine a few years back and it makes changing track-rod ends a near impossible task as I can't grip the bar when trying to get the end off!

We had solid bars on the racer and didn't bend one.

Traditional steering guards are ok, but they won't stop you bending the steering bars from clouting the wheels (which is usually how they bend - not a direct impact to the bar itself). Also if you have a truck with a high suspension lift, a guard offers a dimishing amount of protection too.
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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2008, 12:44:34 »
i went for and would recommend the paddocks bars. they are NOT just a tube you slide over the old and very thin standard bars.
http://www.paddockspares.com/scp/OFF_ROAD/HD_Steering_Rods.html


I'd agree with mobi, I too have the Paddocks bars and have prooved to be well worth the money. I have a Paddocks steering guard fitted too which does protect my steering damper. Over kill maybe but bursting my B***S in the middle of nowhere usually up to my knees in mud doesn't impress me.....



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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2008, 12:57:07 »
I have a steering guard on my rrc but will be getting heavy duty steering bars aswell, and I might move the damper.  Ben
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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2008, 18:39:35 »
haha  thats my bid on the ebay link, clicked the link and couldn't work out why it went to my bid at first !!!!

didn't think about taking off the track rod ends though once the sleeve is on.

I have a Rebel steering guard on mine but still managed to trash my track rod, came out of woodlands with both wheels pointing in opposite directions. had to use my winch and a trolly jack to straighten it up to get home

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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2008, 22:31:22 »
Hi

After I have fitted my cranked rear trailing arms some solid steering bars are next on my list. Ideally I like some that also enable me to relocate the steering damper like what they have done with those sleeved jobbies...

I think actually I may have seen some kit on Wizards ebay shop to relocate the damper but can't remember the details...
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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2008, 00:08:32 »
Yeh, wizard does a relocation kit, very simple and easy to fit, gets the damper out the way nicely!

http://www.wizardbilt.com/Steering%20Damper%20Relocation%20Kit.htm
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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2008, 19:44:25 »
Hi

After I have fitted my cranked rear trailing arms some solid steering bars are next on my list. Ideally I like some that also enable me to relocate the steering damper like what they have done with those sleeved jobbies...

I think actually I may have seen some kit on Wizards ebay shop to relocate the damper but can't remember the details...

I'm maybe being stupid but i can't see the steering damper being low enough to get in the way.....

Here's mine....

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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2008, 20:29:33 »
Remember on a Discovery the steering damper in in a different place!! Its very vulnerable!
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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2008, 20:38:04 »
Just replaced the steering damper as it was dented and bent, removed with difficulty new one has made the steering fell even more wobbly over rough uneven roads, want to put the old one back on  :lol:
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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2008, 21:03:33 »
Heres what mine looked like and I have a steering guard !!
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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2008, 21:17:59 »
steering guards and hd steering bars - get both as they do very different things.
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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2008, 06:08:39 »
Have to say after my last miss-hap thats what I was thinking, my steering guard has quite a few good bashes on it. so was going to relocate the damper and fit "dan style" bars or if funds allow " HD rods.

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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2008, 10:12:05 »
Yeh, wizard does a relocation kit, very simple and easy to fit, gets the damper out the way nicely!

http://www.wizardbilt.com/Steering%20Damper%20Relocation%20Kit.htm

Will moving it change the way it dampens, will I notice any difference? cheers.  Ben
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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2008, 12:03:33 »
if anyone wants to keep the steering in the same place, then turn it around so that the gas/oil end is behind the diff.
as standard the oil/gas end is out in the open and when that gets just a small dent it can make the steering go like [zb].
when its around the other way the diff will give it "some" protection. (i'm not saying it is the best way, but it's better than nothing)
just another point that if you have driven a disco without a damper the wobble can be a nightmare but with the hd steeering bars it does take some (but not all) of the wobble away.
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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2008, 12:40:44 »
Ben, you'll notice no difference to the steering at all, its a simple solution to getting the damper damaged.

Mobi, I fitted Sumo bars to mine but waited a couple of months to refit the damper/damper relocation kit and I must say that it was a nightmare :shock: Every bump, especially on a bend, and I really had to hold on :shocked:

So i would definately say that a damper is needed regardless.
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Re: Steering protector - any body used these
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2008, 19:03:24 »
Ben, you'll notice no difference to the steering at all, its a simple solution to getting the damper damaged.

Mobi, I fitted Sumo bars to mine but waited a couple of months to refit the damper/damper relocation kit and I must say that it was a nightmare :shock: Every bump, especially on a bend, and I really had to hold on :shocked:

So i would definately say that a damper is needed regardless.

Cheers, I will order one soon as,  Ben
1989 3.5 v8 range rover classic with 3.9 efi system, 6'' lift, +5'' dampers, dislocation cones all round, 12500ib T-Max winch, steering guard, custom made rock sliders, light pod, custom made side exit exhaust, welded front and rear diff guards, full roof rack, 35/12.50R15 BFG Muds, CB Radio, Twin Batteries, Rear ARB Locker :)

 






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