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ABS help please
« on: October 06, 2008, 11:05:31 »
Hi,

I've been lurking for a while and I've always managed to find the information that I need but this time I'm stumped.

The ABS light is on in my 95 ES.  I've checked to info in the sticky at the top of the page but my fault code was not listed so after a google I found the complete list of codes.

The light is flashing out a code of 2-3 which is:

Recirculation pump does not operate (pump does not switch on).

I've bridged across the pump relay and the pump spins. (I presume the recirculation pump is the one on the back of the modulator assembly.)

I suppose my questions are:

1. Could the pump relay be at fault? Surely the relay is only used when the ABS needs to kick in.
2. Could the relay that I've been removing to access the codes be at fault?

I've also found conflicting reports about the test sequence. remove relay - ignition on - bridge pins - clear faults - remove jumper - ignition off - replace relay.
or remove relay - ignition on - bridge pins - clear faults - remove jumper - replace relay - ignition off.

I've tried both and I'm still getting the same fault code.

Please help

J

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Re: ABS help please
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2008, 20:26:23 »
I alwasy try clrearing the code and see if it goes away.  Sorry if this isn't the answer you were looking ofr but it's worked for me in the past.
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Re: ABS help please
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2008, 22:23:37 »
I've tried reading and clearing the codes so I just get the 1-1 start code.  Take it for a short drive above 10mph. The light doesn't go off.  Recheck the codes and the 2-3 is back.

I suppose it'll have to go off to the dealer....

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Re: ABS help please
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2008, 22:50:52 »
now if yours is the  type  with the warning light in the top of the rev counter like mine that light is also for the airbag  system  wich could be needing reseting
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Re: ABS help please
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2008, 21:57:28 »
My SRS light is also on but I'm going to sort that out the usual way :lol:

The code that I'm getting seem to tie up with the ABS and I can clear the codes back to nothing.

I can't see how it could be linked to the airbag but thanks for the advice.

J

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Re: ABS help please
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2008, 22:06:56 »
i have had the Brake light switch faulty causing a simillar fault, cant remember what the code was, and it is a common failure on most ABS systems

as for what lurch_917 said, i have never heard or come across this link between ABS and the Airbag system, maybe if they use the same fuse (very unlikely) it could be the fuse blown not allowing the relay to click in

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Re: ABS help please
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2008, 22:15:59 »

as for what lurch_917 said, i have never heard or come across this link between ABS and the Airbag system, maybe if they use the same fuse (very unlikely) it could be the fuse blown not allowing the relay to click in

I don't no if this was linked but i had my abs and air bag light came on at the same time. didn't do anything about it just sold it through e bay to germany.

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Re: ABS help please
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2008, 22:31:35 »
Thanks for the replies.

From what I can tell the brake light switch failure shows as a 2-6 code.  The brake lights seem to becoming on fine but I'll check it out anyway.

Grasping at straws a bit now.

J

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Re: ABS help please
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2008, 16:19:25 »
My ABS light is on again, and i can can guarantee its the brake lite failure when i do the test.

You may have a number off the same error logged (i think you can have the same error more than once) and so when you are clearing the error, it hasn't cleared them all, and thats why the light may be still on (if that makes sense).

Hope this helps

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Re: ABS help please
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2008, 21:52:43 »
Thanks Andy. I 'thought' I'd cleared all the codes but I guess I might not have.  It's the only code that seems to be there at the moment.

I'm very tempted just to get new relays and be done with it.

I'm still grasping at straws.

J

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Re: ABS help please
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2008, 21:08:45 »
i have had another thought (the old grey cells take a bit to get going these days) the first time i had to reset my ABS, i cleared all the faults, and the light would not go out. Like you suggest, I ended up replacing the relay that had to be removed to do the test, and that fixed it.

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Re: ABS help please
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2008, 22:31:12 »
I bought a replacement green (which is now yellow????) relay today to try and have ordered a black one..

Thanks for the info.

Hopefully I'll have an update tomorrow.

J

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Re: ABS help please
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2008, 19:16:20 »
Quick update for anyone who's interested.  The new yellow relay should have been green.

I opened up the packet today to find that the relay was minus 1 pin.

When I bought it from the MAIN DEALER I did question the fact that it was yellow and should have been green. 'No sir that's the correct one'...

Anyway needless to say I now need to return it and get a green one.

Hopefully a more positive update next time.

J

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Re: ABS help please
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2008, 15:25:06 »
Just a quick update. And to help with future searches.

I've now replaced the pump relay and the ABS light is now out.  To remind everyone I was getting a 2-3 code.

I've only done a short drive but all seems to be well.

J

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Re: ABS help please
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2008, 21:26:19 »
glad you got it sorted at last
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