MOT man won't test my 110

[Landyman]

Took my 110 for MOT today and my usual garage can't test it as its plated weight is 3050kg and he's only licenced for vehicles up to 3000kg.
He used to do my older 110 no problem but this one (it's 1998 300Tdi) is heavier.  :doh:
Anyone else had this trouble? 
Ive got to take it to a class 3 tester instead.

[V8MoneyPit]

Land Rover 110's are exempt from this regulation. He should find this when he logs on to the DVLA system.

[Landyman]

Ok thanks I'm going back on Monday to get my van done I'll get him to check

[Mr Bump]

I had this <edit> from the local MoT person - also tried to tell me it was a class 7 commercial (or 4 can't remember which is which)

Told him the unladen weight was 1900 ish kg and that it was "dual purpose" so not a commercial (even offered to bring previous MoT certificate and V5 in to show him), but he still wouldn't test it..

Took it to a garage a bit further away and they looked it up and then put it on a lift rated at 2000 kgs  :lol:

The sensible garage got my 50 quid.  Vote with your feet.

[Landyman]

Land Rover 110's are exempt from this regulation. He should find this when he logs on to the DVLA system.

Hi
I went back today but he can't seem to find anything about an exemption. Can you point me in the direction of a web link or someone I could phone for some clarification on this. Luckily I'm not out of test yet but I only have a couple of weeks to get it sorted. :doh:

[V8MoneyPit]

Not an official source, but...

http://www.glencoyne.co.uk/motclass.htm

Since this subject pops up from time to time, I have e-mailed VOSA for confirmation. I've also asked them for advice to be given to those who have been refused a test. I'll report back as soon as I hear anything from them.

[Mr Bump]

I doubt there's any legislation that says LR's are exempt from <whiney voice> "health and safety"  lol.  if it's too heavy for his lift it's too heavy for his lift..

Garage bloke is just being daft if he doesn't want to look up the difference between max gross weight and unladen.  Maybe he doesn't want the work? and I thought there was a recession?

[V8MoneyPit]

Ah, the old H&S gem  :lol:

The testing classes are all defined by gross laden weight and the Defender is 3050Kgs. The exemption is not specific to Land Rover as such, but covers 4 wheel drives with 'dual purpose'. What I'm hoping for from VOSA is a definitive answer so we can go to the relevant MOT testers and point them in the right direction.

I used to run a Minor 1000 van which never had a VIN plate. Every time I took it to the MOT station, he questioned it. I had to tell him to RTFM every year (although I might not have used those exact words!). Only vehicles after August 1980 have to carry a VIN plate. The same problem now exists with the computer based system as with the Land Rover testing class. Whoever wrote the software didn't allow for all the historic exemptions and even testers who know the details have trouble because the system is inflexible.

[JumboBeef]

The 110 hard top I recently sold was plated at 3500KG and had to be MOTed at a Class VII testing centre (cost was a couple of quid more).

The other 110 we have is plated at 3050KG and we have never had a problem getting this MOTed at a 'normal' MOT station.

[Jimbo]

I had exactly the same problem when I first got my 110 Hard top. The local MoT place wouldn't touch it, stating that it needed to go for Class VII due to the GVW of the vehicle. I searched the web, found the Glencoyne site that's been mentioned earlier, and also emailed VOSA (can't find the damn reply at the mo). The response from VOSA was that the vehicle can be tested at a 'normal' test station, they even quoted the bit from the testers handbook which explained it.

I then rang a local(ish) independant LR garage, and they said the same thing as the first place I tried - no, it's too big..........but then I told them about VOSA's email, and would they mind checking the relevant section in the manual - "no probs, what's your number we'll call you back in 10mins". Thought I'd never hear from them again, but 20mins later, they did ring back and said yep, bring it in 8am tomorrow and we'll do it.

I now take both the Disco and Defender to this garage (Howe Engineering, buntingford), and get excellent service, tea whilst they do the MoT, and an endless supply of current Landy mags to read.

[V8MoneyPit]

Like Jim, I use a garage that understands Land Rovers. They know about the 'dual purpose' exemption and have never refused the 110.

[Priglet]

You're not alone, don't pay extra for the class 7 test as it's not valid for your motor and you can still be prosecuted for driving without MoT.

[V8MoneyPit]

Here are the replies from VOSA. See if you can understand them  :lol:

A dual purpose vehicle for class IV test the Unladen Weight of the Vehicle must not exceed 2,040kg not the Gross weight of the vehicle.

There after it would be tested to standard of the gross weight of the vehicle.

It may have been that some refusal to test has been because the test stations cannot accommodate the vehicle.

Then I asked for the definition of 'dual purpose'.....

A Dual Purpose vehicle is defined as follows:-

Construted or adapted for the carriage fo both passenger(s) and good or burden of any description: and

has an unladen weight not exceeding 2,040kg: and

which either

A.  is so constructed or adapted so that the driving power of the engine, is, or by the use of the appropriate controls can be, transmitted to all the wheels of the vehicle: or

B.  satisfies the following conditions as to construction:

     1. is pemantently fitted with a rigid roof, with or without a sliding panel
     2. the area to the rear of the drivers seat must;

         be permantently fitted with at least one row of transverse seats (fixed or folding) for two or more passengers, and those seats must properly sprung or cushioned and provided with upholstered backrests, attatched to the seats or to a side or the floor of the vehicle :  and

    3. the distance between the rearmost part of the steering wheel and the backrests of the row of tranverse seats satisfying the requirements specified in the first paragraph of item B 1 (or it there is more than one such row of seats , the distance between the rearmost part of the steering wheel and the backrests of the rearmost such row) must, when the seats are ready for use, be not less than one third of the distance between the rearmost part of the steering wheel and the rearmost part of the floor of the vehicle.