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starting problems help please
« on: December 10, 2008, 15:14:50 »
my 200 tdi is being tempermental it was working fine but now everytime  i start it i can just hear this whirling sound, think its from the starter? after putting my foot on the acelerator it jumps into life (not always straight away but after a little playing with it, can anyone help advicing me what is the actual problem? thanks josh
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Re: starting problems help please
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2008, 18:57:47 »
Hi Josh,

I'm no expert but I think your starter is pre engaged, I.E. the pin that shoots out to engage the flywheel is sticking, it maybe down to driving in deep water or mud which gets in to the casing, good luck changing it, I have done 3 of these in the last 12 months, solenoid went today, there a bit of a pain to change on the defender

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Re: starting problems help please
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2008, 19:32:18 »
much appreciated do you think i need to replace the entire starter motor or just the pin and if so where can i get one?
also how complex is it, or is it just akward? thanks
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Re: starting problems help please
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2008, 11:30:42 »
Change the whole starter, it's not complex just awkward as you say, there may be other ways around it but and 2 pairs of hands is a bonus, i do have a snorkel pipe in the way which does impede the job a little.

I had to do the following.

remove the heatshield, loosen off the exhaust downpipe, remove wires, take out top left bolt, take out top right nut and bolt (if you can get on the engine and have small hands you may be able to do this from above) or its a 2 person job one underneath with an extended 17mm spanner one above with a 17mm socket on extensions. to get to it from underneath you may have to remove the slave cylinder, remove bolt from the bottom, now the fun bit once the starter is unbolted and free, I had to drop it out from the bottom, but there was not enough room so I removed the near side engine mount nut and jacked the engine up on the side to give me better access. to fit just reverse the process.

I hope someone comes along and Say's there is an easier way, fingers crossed.

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Re: starting problems help please
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2008, 18:55:14 »
like you say it is a pain to do but i used a milk crate to stand on whitch made it much easier the only thing i removed was the heat sheild.you can do it on your own but it is fiddley. good luck

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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2008, 19:00:14 »
like you say it is a pain to do but i used a milk crate to stand on whitch made it much easier the only thing i removed was the heat sheild.you can do it on your own but it is fiddley. good luck

Did you bring the SM out through the top?

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Re: starting problems help please
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2008, 19:32:03 »
Got exactly the same problem with my starter. You need a 17mm socket with extension and a 17mm spanner. Take the bonnet off and find something to stand on this just gives enough reach. Then it's a fiddly matter of taking off the 3 bolts. One is a nut and bolt, one a stud and one a nut.  Did mine in about 3/4 hour last night at the cost of only one knuckle. I took the starter out of the top.

Don't forget to disconnect the battery.

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Re: starting problems help please
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2008, 19:35:25 »
I don't know what I have in the way then but I could not get it out of the top,ill try next time :-#

 






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