oh dear oh dear oh dear

[boss]

may have lost my licance!

yesterday i was driving one of the truck mounts for work.....was the first time i had ever driven a hiab and i wasnt usedto how crap it was! came to some traffic lights in london.......applies the  "london green" rule (light was amber) dropped a gear....nothing happend! crap! ran a red! if i get a photo through the post not only will i be pulled up on running the red but i will get a bolloking because the truck I WAS TOLD TO DRIVE was a 4 ton-er and i cant drive this on my licance!
i am not a happy chappy! the only comeback or way of getting out of this is that all the trucks have a tracker in them and evereyone has there own key, i dont have one yet so i used a generic one and i am not written on the work plan to pick that truck up. so if anything happens i diddnt do it!

still bloody angry

[TDi90]

you may get away with points... you never know till crunch time.
im corssing my fingers for you...  [-o<

[pux]

If that truck is not on your licence than you should have told your employer to poke off and not drive it :roll: what would have happened if you had an accident and hurt someone they would have thrown the book at you :roll:

[Llanigraham]

And I suspect that your employer is going to get into deep dodo if you do get prosecuted since he let you drive it. VOSA could get very heavy if he has done anything similar in the past.

[trecfive]

I hope they throw the book at you for your irisponsable behaviour. IT might teach you that a driving licence is a privilege and not a right to drive like an a**ehole. It's people like you that the rest of us has to pay for in increased  insurance premiums. As you have posted this on an open forum and seem to be proud of it, i hope one of your bosses reads it and also throws the book at you.

[muddyjames]

...was the first time i had ever driven a hiab and i wasnt usedto how crap it was! came to some traffic lights in london.......applies the  "london green" rule (light was amber) dropped a gear....nothing happend! crap! ran a red!.

Thats why people have driving lessons and pass a test to drive such vehicles so when they go out on thier own they are compentant and know what they are doing.

tut tut tut. I'm afraid I have to say it...................

It's not big, it's not clever and it CERTAINLY ISN'T funny. [-X

[Saffy]

the only comeback or way of getting out of this is

 so if anything happens i diddnt do it!

least you kept it quite then and not talk about it in a worldwide forum with several serving police office members.... oh oops  :lol:

[william127]

bloody hell! i take it youve just got the qrdinary(aftr 1997) car license, without any extra catagories? there a right pain in the behind, especicialloy if you work in building/ farming and everyone else is driving all sorts of truck and trailer combinations all around and you cant without spending £600 or so quid a catergory to uprate your license :twisted:     good luck with it, hope you  get away with it :) (but dont do it again)

[Chris Putt]

Gutted... But you are a silly boy for driving it!!

[horsethief]

Did your firm know you not got license,if so they are responseable,we had an accident with manlift,but couldn't prosecute because no body had course,so firm responseable.If you not on work sheet deny everything up to police to prove you driving,under human rights law you can't implicate yourself,i think.best of luck and be more careful next time.remeber your company responsable for letting you drive it.

[ben-dent]

good luck boss

but i do have to agree you should have known that you wernt ment to be driving it,

i have towed a trailer that was over the weight limit, but i didnt know i was over the weight until i finished on the weigh bridge and had unloaded my goods,

but in the case of a truck that is obviously over your limit then you should have told your boss / whom ever told you to drive it to get someone else to take it as your licence doesnt allow,

i was asked to take a 4 ton tipper truck to an MOT and told my boss i wasnt allowed someone else would have to do it, and he questioned why, untill i showed him my licence

[trec 2]

 I WAS TOLD TO

And if they told you to go and jump in front  of a speeding train would you have done that as well?? 

Its this attitude of finding some one else to blame for your own wrong doing thats screwing this country up!!!

[discowoman]

IGNORANCE IS NO DEFENCE
and as for 'I dropped a gear and nothing happened' erm its a truck - not a Porsche - hence why I have a class C on my licence - that I paid for..I take it you had a tacho inserted too? if so then that has your name on it - and therefore - you're up the creek with out a paddle! And if you hadnt got one in then the same still apllies- even more so!
I personally hope that the law drops on you - and your boss - like a ton of bricks - Irresponsible isnt a word i'd use, i would have chosen something a lot harsher..but as its a family forum it'll have to do...
If yuo were not familier with the vehicle then caution should prevail and as for driving not in accordance with the conditions of your licence - well thats points and a large fine on its own - and depending on when you passed your test - possible a ban and a retest.

[Sider]

No offence, pal, but you should lose your licence, and your employer should have their O licence revoked. You were driving a vehicle for which you are not licenced, you obviously were driving it without the compulsory tachograph and to top it of, you were using ancilliary equipment (the HIAB) for which I assume you have no ticket.

Both you and your employer deserve a good lesson. I admit that the one who should receive the harshest lesson is your employer, for they are responsible to make sure everyone driving one of their vehicles is legally allowed to do so, but you are a grown man, and should have refused to drive the vehicle, full stop.

If they take that cavalier an approach to driving, it makes me wonder what condition their vehicles are in (maintenance and inspections alike)

[chrisland]

seems to me you've been a numty.

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

Regarding the licence; Use, Cause, Permit as the Road Traffic Act says.
In relation to the 'Amber' aspect, I was told on every single driving course I've done, treat Amber as a Red, because there may be someone jumping the lights the other way.
Sorry mate, you have a certain amount of sympathy, but not much. I've picked up the remains too many times.

[carbore]

I think you have been very silly as you knew you couldn't drive it, however as I have a pre 1997 license it would appear that I am entitled to drive such a vehicle so (legality aside) I don't think you have committed a crime against humanity as I am no more qualified than you to drive such a truck.

Also you need to think about what you are driving and not play the "london rules" game when you have 4 tonnes of truck to pull up etc etc.

[Lyndsey731]

I've read your posts before and as an enthusiast you seem reasonably sensible even if your ideas can be a bit out there, but on this occasion you prove yourself to be a bloody idiot, comments of "London green", "dropped a gear" and "I was told to do it" are the pathetic ramblings of an immature 19 year old. To do it in the first place wasn't a brilliant idea but to put it in writing and go for a sympathy vote shows the intelligence of a retarded amoeba at best. I'll give you an example, Wednesday evenings I go the pub with some mates, last week I came back from the toilet to find two of them on their mobiles, the reason being some idiot had raced through a red light less than half a mile away and both parties were being cut out of their vehicles, my mates were phoning their kids to make sure it wasn't them, had my 3 been old enough to drive I would have been doing the same.

[Rich_P]

"London Green" rule, what's that?  :-.

[freeagent]

Personally I hope you loose your licence, as it might teach you a lesson.

You shouldn't have been driving it. Nuff said.

[datalas]

OK Chaps,

Mistakes happen and perhaps the biggest mistake here was posting to the club about it (at least that's the mistake which is going to cause me the most headache)

Let's please bear in mind that few of us are perfect and that in this instance the incident was without incident, or at least without any of the more dreadful consequences.

I'm sure that, right, wrong or otherwise Boss is currently feeling a combination of upset, angry (at himself) and terrified about his prospects,  insults are unlikely to change that nor will they change history for the better.

I'm locking this thread before someone says something I'll regret and it all goes horribly astray.