Bear Grylls

[Chris Putt]

Is an idiot;

Discuss

having just seen him on the tellybox being a complete prat climbing about on the snow slopes with NONE of the appropriate kit (Merrel trainers on snow slopes?!)

What kind of an example.

Chris

[Chris Putt]

Now hes demonstrating how NOT to cross a river. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Drift]

I find him to frustrating to watch, once saw him glissading down a snow slope using something silly like a pencil as a brake  :roll: you just know some knob is going to copy him  :doh:

Though I can see many copying him drinking elephant poo 

[lewist1993]

Jumping into a hole in ice into minus something degree water and trying to get out before the hole freezes over or he gets hyperthermia. Thick or what?

[chrisland]

yep i agree he is an idiot ...but he does make me laugh.  :lol:
also where ever he is he always tells a story about people being trap and dieing  :shock:
my favourte one is in scotland where he walk into a mud hole on purpose  :lol: :lol:

[muddyjames]

I saw a dessert one once and he climbed into a camel skin still on the bones and peed all around the outside to put animals off eating him or his camel tent. Oh how I would have laughed if a big animal dragged the carcase off in the night with him inside. :lol:

[Disco Matt]

I have to say I much prefer the Ray Mears approach (despite all those claiming that it's fake and that he has a fully kitted motorhome behind the camera). He just seems far more sensible - survival in relative comfort. Bear's antics, while entertaining, would be really stupid in a genuine survival situation as they put him at far too much risk of injuring himself in a silly way. It's bad enough having the scenery, weather and wildlife trying to kill you without doing daft things like walking around in the snow in trainers!

[glaggs]

Not a big fan of Bear Grylls myself, much prefer Ray Mears - but it makes a change not to have to watch a namby pamby PC H&S restricted contton wooled wrapped sanitised piece of twaddle occasionaly. If he wants to climb without the 'right gear' he has the choice! as do we all. We still have the inteligence to assess risk and carry on accordingly. With the Media and Government Nanny mentality the next generation won't know how to leave the house without going on a course to get a meaningless certificate first.

[lee celtic]

I went to Manchester over christmas and there was a sale on in town , I found a really nice woodsman  shirt for £3  :shock: thought I'd buy a few .....................


 BUT on the pocket it had the imortal words Bear grylls  :roll: :roll:

no wonder there was loads of them left ...

the guys a prat the first rule in any survival situation in fact any emergency situation is don't take risks ,

walking around in trainers in snow would be a possibility in an emergency however I'd walk down a hill carefully rather than lob off the nearest waterfall  :roll:

Ray (fatty) mears is way better (if a little dull sometimes) but the facts are there and well put across , though I do think he puts too much time into cooking and eating than he does finding/catching the food  :lol: :lol:

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

Not exactly a glacier buster, but I've always thought this guy was pretty good. He had a cracking Landy as well!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VcfqGhfgxo

His recipes for Stinging Nettle Soup and Spicy Squirrel are excellent! Highly recommended!

[Disco Matt]

Not a big fan of Bear Grylls myself, much prefer Ray Mears - but it makes a change not to have to watch a namby pamby PC H&S restricted contton wooled wrapped sanitised piece of twaddle occasionaly. If he wants to climb without the 'right gear' he has the choice! as do we all. We still have the inteligence to assess risk and carry on accordingly. With the Media and Government Nanny mentality the next generation won't know how to leave the house without going on a course to get a meaningless certificate first.

But equally it helps if they have good role models. There's going out and having adventures, and there's going out under-equipped and ending up as another mountain rescue mission. Mears always stresses the right kit for the job, while Grylls gives the impression that you can just set off in t shirt and shorts. Mountain rescue have to recover disturbing numbers of people from Snowdon every year who just set off in t shirt and shorts...

I would far rather people went out and applied things that they learned from Mears, as it should be easier to rescue them if it doesn't work!

[Drift]

though I do think he puts too much time into cooking and eating than he does finding/catching the food   

Thats funny  :lol: :lol:

[lee celtic]

Mountain rescue have to recover disturbing numbers of people from Snowdon every year who just set off in t shirt and shorts...

I think this link will prove how dangerous Snowdonia is people think that because they can get a train to the top that it can't be that bad. :'(


http://thebmc.co.uk/News.aspx?id=3063


Thoughts go out to the rest of the team and Family .

[Chris Putt]

That thing with mountain rescue is all to common, there was a quite high number of deaths in snowdonia this winter I have been lead to believe due to people going out ill prepared.

Without wanting to sound like an advert, if you are going or know someone who is going out in the hills, make sure you/they understand the risks, kit up properly and have had some sort of training. I work in the hills regularly and its a real worry seeing groups/ families out without the suitable kit. Its a big arguement within the industry that 'we' as society make the mountains more accessible with big paths (Scafell and Snowdon esp.) which allow nupties to go out without any skills and get themselves into trouble.

[carbore]

I think the last time we discussed this it more that the "Born Survivor" series is a bit rubbish as its too much about false danger etc where as Ray Mears is just good solid advice and interest without all the TV drama.

I liked Berar Grills Freach Legion thing on CH4 as it was far more about attitude and mental toughnesses as opposed to jumping into lakes, but I respect his history as he has been through it a bit.
 The balance of risk vs reward in born survivor it totally wrong why use 1000000 calories climbing a mountain when you can use far less walking round it picking nuts and berries as you go.