1:222 Transfer Box

[Mark_Solesbury]

Anyone fitted one to a 90?

Thoughts over a 1:410

Also, can someone confirm that the low range is the same in both?

[Saffy]

Anyone fitted one to a 90?

Thoughts over a 1:410

Also, can someone confirm that the low range is the same in both?

All stock LT 230"s have a low ratio of 3.321
If your shopping for a box and only have the serial to identify it the to *help* make sure you getting the wanted hi box ratio then my document here has a list of serial/ratio:

https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dhfmtstj_0ghdpj7jh&hl=en

Plenty of peeps have swapped boxes from 1.410 to 1.222, for one.. member burgerman went whole hog and got an ashcrofts box with that ratio on his mrs' td5 90.
I have a 1.222 box here to fit one day...maybe. I go laning with someone else with that ratio and it seems they struggle to keep a comfortable pace whilst in high box on reasonable fast gravel tracks in 3rd and 4th gears, I pick up faster and leave them in dust with the standard defender box. For highway use they'd blow my top speed and have a smoother rev level though.

[billy badger]

I fitted one to my 200Tdi 90 recently. Low ratio is same as defender, high ratio approximately 15% higher. It drives fine on road, just need to change up about 10 mph higher in each gear, climbs long hills on motorway in top no problem.

[Mark_Solesbury]

Thanks

How long / bigga job was it to change over?

[billy badger]

I did mine by removing the centre seat and panel below,  remove transmission tunnel cover, disconnect propshafts, handbrake cable, speedo cable, wiring to reverse light switch & diff lock warning light. Hi-low selector & diff lock linkage can be reached but are a bit fiddly, remove 2 breather connections. I used an engine crane through the passenger door to take the weight before removing bolts to main gearbox (2 nuts & 4 bolts I think). Offside gearbox  mounting needs removing. Transfer box can then be slid back off splined input shaft, lowered and dragged out from below. It is not only very heavy, but also an awkward shape to handle. Removal and replacement with new box took around 5 hours with help from a mate.
When you fit the new box fit the speedo drive gear from your original box and speedo will then read correctly.

[topless matt]

Shouldnt take more than a couple of hours.
I didnt worry about the engine crane, just unbolt it and catch it on your chest using your arms to slow its fall.
Its a little akward but not overly so, as yours is lifted you will be fine for room underneath.
just make sure you DONT pinch the seal when you put the box back or you will have to take it off again after a few hundred miles because of the leak  :twisted:

[graham2306]

I didnt worry about the engine crane, just unbolt it and catch it on your chest using your arms to slow its fall.

Real men drive Land Rovers.  Health and safety is for wimps.

[topless matt]

lol, very true  :twisted: :lol:

[BK]

Shouldnt take more than a couple of hours.
I didnt worry about the engine crane, just unbolt it and catch it on your chest using your arms to slow its fall.
Its a little akward but not overly so, as yours is lifted you will be fine for room underneath.
just make sure you DONT pinch the seal when you put the box back or you will have to take it off again after a few hundred miles because of the leak  :twisted:

drop it onto your chest?????are you pi**ed??.......anyone that tries this will most definately end up in A&E with broken ribs .... and yes you do need a crane or some thing similar....and no it doesnt take "a couple of hours"unless you have a team of trained fitters and you are in a fully equipped workshop......this thing must weigh about 75kg ........"catch it on your chest using your arms" :lol: :lol: :lol:it will rip your arms from the socket .......(what a set of total planks) :lol:me and billy badger did this and we dont mess about and it must have taken us 5 hours start to finish and we had a garage with a pit and a hydraulic crane!!!!.

[Hangover]

Shouldnt take more than a couple of hours.
I didnt worry about the engine crane, just unbolt it and catch it on your chest using your arms to slow its fall.
Its a little akward but not overly so, as yours is lifted you will be fine for room underneath.
just make sure you DONT pinch the seal when you put the box back or you will have to take it off again after a few hundred miles because of the leak  :twisted:

Use your arms to slow it's fall,like were they broken afterwards? Catch it on your chest,you mistaking it with a football :)

[Disco 90 george]

I did the same, seat box out. Have a look at this link it may help. http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=6024 look a lot easyer !

[extreme90]

Shouldnt take more than a couple of hours.
I didnt worry about the engine crane, just unbolt it and catch it on your chest using your arms to slow its fall.
Its a little akward but not overly so, as yours is lifted you will be fine for room underneath.
just make sure you DONT pinch the seal when you put the box back or you will have to take it off again after a few hundred miles because of the leak  :twisted:

drop it onto your chest?????are you pi**ed??.......anyone that tries this will most definately end up in A&E with broken ribs .... and yes you do need a crane or some thing similar....and no it doesnt take "a couple of hours"unless you have a team of trained fitters and you are in a fully equipped workshop......this thing must weigh about 75kg ........"catch it on your chest using your arms" :lol: :lol: :lol:it will rip your arms from the socket .......(what a set of total planks) :lol:me and billy badger did this and we dont mess about and it must have taken us 5 hours start to finish and we had a garage with a pit and a hydraulic crane!!!!.

im sorry, but what a load of rubbbish, are you a twig or something  :roll: :roll:, im by no means a big build (ask clbarclay) but ive had a gearbox and transfer box out of 90 my in 2 hours on my own, as the clutch fork went, and i needed it the next day!!
people go over the top removing things when they dont need to.
ive never removed the trans tunnel ect ect
ive recently removed my old 200tdi set-up and done a td5 transplant, it took me 8 hours to get the old engine out, and new in, and all bolted down, gearbox ect ect
it was then running a few days later.

as for the input seal on the lt230, yes there a pain, but your supposed to put abit of rtv around it just incase  ;)

[topless matt]

Thanks dan, someone who agrees with me. When something needs to be done, just get on and do it.

drop it onto your chest?????are you pi**ed??.......anyone that tries this will most definately end up in A&E with broken ribs .... and yes you do need a crane or some thing similar....and no it doesnt take "a couple of hours"unless you have a team of trained fitters and you are in a fully equipped workshop......this thing must weigh about 75kg ........"catch it on your chest using your arms"   :lol:it will rip your arms from the socket .......(what a set of total planks) :lol:me and billy badger did this and we dont mess about and it must have taken us 5 hours start to finish and we had a garage with a pit and a hydraulic crane!!!!.

It is no where 75Kg, dont be so bloody stupid,  i didnt end up in A&E.  Also, i have taken the gearbox out with a mate of mine and we didnt use a crane then, just used good old muscle power.

It only took me a couple of hours start to finish, if anyone doubts that it took my 2 hours then they should just get over it, some people work at faster rates than others and seeing as ive done it loads of times before i am damn good at doing it so it doesnt take ver long.

Use your arms to slow it's fall,like were they broken afterwards? Catch it on your chest,you mistaking it with a football

No they wernt broken afterwards, just a bit oily  :twisted:

[extreme90]

no worries matt, it just annoys me when people talk a load of c***
whats more dangerous is people attempting to fit both gearbox and transfer box together, that is a big no no. i always split the box's before doing any work or changing a clutch on something.
i agree on work rates, but also, some people spanner as a living ( even though i work on boats not landys ) so that speeds the proccess up as you no what you can get away with not taking off.
i find removing the hand brake assay makes a huge difference and is only 5 mins to remove and refit
dan

[topless matt]

Yeah, makes it a lot less bulky without the handbrake off doesnt it.
I work on a farm so am always lumping big bits of metal around, taking engines apart, gearboxes off tractors t o i know what i can and cannot lift on my own.
Using tools for your living makes it so much faster as you tend to work a lot quicker.

[BK]

Ha--ha you both bit you pair of planks,you take things far too seriously......but if you want to beat the world record for taking gearboxes out thats up to you,I like to take things steady and chill out a bit,thats why when me and my mate do it we do it right and dont end up knackered just so we can say"gearbox?ahh Ive changed one in twenty minutes with my hands behind my back"!!!!............pinocchio :lol:

[Sabo]

I've changed one a few times on my own - BUT I have an engine crane, tried it without and nearly popped myself.  For a person who has never done it before - read up on it and take your time, I also found it easier taking out the middle seat and pan and the gearbox cover, this way you can get the linkages.

Dave

[BK]

I've changed one a few times on my own - BUT I have an engine crane, tried it without and nearly popped myself.  For a person who has never done it before - read up on it and take your time, I also found it easier taking out the middle seat and pan and the gearbox cover, this way you can get the linkages.

Dave

 I agree,seems like we are a minority on here mate,they all must have steel b****ks and arms like popeye :lol:

[topless matt]

Yes, steel b******s and arms like popeye are a requirement for my job so it helps with gearbox removal lol

[Sabo]

We'd best get onto the Spinage!

[extreme90]

Ha--ha you both bit you pair of planks,you take things far too seriously......but if you want to beat the world record for taking gearboxes out thats up to you,I like to take things steady and chill out a bit,thats why when me and my mate do it we do it right and dont end up knackered just so we can say"gearbox?ahh Ive changed one in twenty minutes with my hands behind my back"!!!!............pinocchio :lol:

lol N**
aint a clue have you, typical no it all  :roll:
and i never rush doing a job btw  ;) ;)
if i rushed a job, id never earn money

[extreme90]

and yer, im bult like popeye or julk aint i :-  http://www.scorpionracing.co.uk/OFFROAD/News/2007/events/Club1/clr1p397.jpg
 :roll:

[Saffy]

and yer, im bult like popeye or julk aint i :-  http://www.scorpionracing.co.uk/OFFROAD/News/2007/events/Club1/clr1p397.jpg
 :roll:

your steel b**ls are showing in that pic though  :oops:

[topless matt]

Thats why there is that much mud on his trousers, his steel b******s made him sink  ;) :lol:

[extreme90]

 :lol: :lol:

[BK]

and yer, im bult like popeye or julk aint i :-  http://www.scorpionracing.co.uk/OFFROAD/News/2007/events/Club1/clr1p397.jpg
 :roll:

go back to school you cant spell........and dont be getting too excited its just an internet forum...ha-ha

[Range Rover Blues]

So has anyone got a good 1.4:1 to sell then?

I'm thinking of putting a Defender box on Blue because it has 235/85s on almost all the time now and the 10% extra gearing makes it struggle, especially when towing, to stay in top. It's also a handlfull to get out of a junction quickly.