Tyres where do I stand

[piggysteve]

Last Aug swbo took the defender for 4 new tyres, they were bought from a firm on the internet who use local tyre centres to do the fitting.
On Sunday I had a blowout and found that the new tubeless tyres had been put onto my rims with the old tubes. I now have a truck with no spare and another tyre going down
I've contacted the firm who are chasing the tyre centre.
The wheels are steel military, I had another firm who are open on Sun have a look, they said that the tubes should'nt have been fitted. Also they did'nt have a valve to fit my wheels which is probably why the old tubes were put back in.
As the title says where do I stand?

Steve

[V8MoneyPit]

The first thing is to see what they come back with as you are doing. They might just get it sorted for you. It's their reputation at stake, after all.

If they aren't interested in sorting it out, try the CAB. They can answer most basic legal rights questions for free and point you in the right direction with regard to what to do next.

[piggysteve]

I was wondering if it is legal for them to do it, if I'd known I would have bought new wheels if necessary but can't afford to now

[trecfive]

Try a PM to Hi Q Lee, he is in the tyre trade and may be able to give you the inside story on tyre fitters duty of care. Me personly thinks the tyres should not have been fitted if they didnot have the correct size valves, an error on the company's behalf. Tubes in tubeless tyres in this instance was to try and not let the customer down, and it now has.Go back to the company and see what they are prepared to do, if nothing trading standards will be interested.

[eugene]

if the tyre state that its tubless the no tube should have been fitted so the people how fitted then shoulnt have and they are responsible for the out come try trading standard because that could hadn a bad outcome and its there fault

[Jas278]

You need to prove you did nt ask the firm to refit the tubes , look at it another way ....if you d wanted the tubes re fitting and they did nt you would still moan....you ve had a blow out take it on the chin....not digging at you but too many people look to blame the " motor trade" BLOW outs happen...

[HiQ Lee]

Time to put the tyre trade point of view across now.If your wheels are of the tubed type(standard land rover steel wheels except wolf) then yes you are allowed to fit a tube in a tubeless tyre otherwise the tyre would deflate and come off the rim as there would be no safety hump to keep the tyre on..the valve hole size indicates that it is a tube type rim anyhow.But in the point of where do i stand unfortunately you could of picked up a nail or other sharp object which has gone in and then came back out,so it might just be a case of sods law it always happens to your new tyres.

[piggysteve]

You can see where the tube has been rubbing on the tyre and I have another one going down now.
My point is that I should have been advised of what they were doing. If the wheels can't take tubeless tyres I would have left them on the shelf and bought some new wheels.
Jas if I was trying to blame anyone I'd have gone straight to trading standards,I'm not trying to cause trouble. I appreciate that blowouts happen but I've had a tyre go flat on the motorway while towing a big trailer possibly due to someones negligence. The tyre has been examined and is undamaged, I am as most of you would be a bit unhappy to say the least.

[Jas278]

So you ve had a puncture ? not a blow out ...............  If the tube deflated or had been run under pressure then it may have looked like it rubbed ....Lots of people run Landy Rims with tubes it stops the mud that gets down the sides pushing the tyre of the rim and  also creating slow punctures ...I don't think any fitter has done anything wrong here.............   :lol:   No I'm not a Tyre fitter but have been in the motor trade 24 yrs and seen most scenarios..

[littlepow]

Last Aug swbo took the defender for 4 new tyres, they were bought from a firm on the internet who use local tyre centres to do the fitting.
On Sunday I had a blowout and found that the new tubeless tyres had been put onto my rims with the old tubes. I now have a truck with no spare and another tyre going down
I've contacted the firm who are chasing the tyre centre.
The wheels are steel military, I had another firm who are open on Sun have a look, they said that the tubes should'nt have been fitted. Also they did'nt have a valve to fit my wheels which is probably why the old tubes were put back in.
As the title says where do I stand?

Steve

At the side of your car away from the traffic!  :P




But it would be worth getting the tyres and wheels checked by an independant trye fitter. Will be worth it just for the peace of mind, that and they will be ableto tell you if anything was done outside of the regulations.

[Priglet]

I had a similar problem a couple of years ago. My punctures were caused by a sticker the fitter had left on the inside of the tyre which gradually rubbed away at the inner tube until I had a puncture :(

[piggysteve]

The tyre centre have been ok, they've looked at all 4 tyres. The punctured one and the one with a slow puncture were due to the tube rubbing inside the tyre and there was abrasions on the other 2. Unfortunately as suspected I can't fit tubeless tyres to my rims so they have fitted new tubes free of charge until I get some new rims. They will then fit my tyres, again free.

My tyres work for a living as I use my truck at work as well as laning etc so I'll be getting some rims as I'm not risking a repeat of last Sun, an ifor williams with an sj on the back and a rear puncture is not a good combination.

Steve  

[trecfive]

Go back to the company and see what they are prepared to do,

It's amazing what can be achieved by talking about a complaint.

[Range Rover Blues]

Tubes shold never be fitted to tubless tyres because the ridges inside the tyre will waer away the ube, causing rapid delation or "blowout".

Duty of care if they never even told you.