Starter motor

[V8MoneyPit]

Hi all

I used the old starter motor in my 90 because it was working fine on the donor vehicle. But it has stood for 2 years while it was being built.

It is now giving trouble. It spins over but doesn't engage in the ring gear to turn the engine. It seems the solenoid isn't moving the dog far enough to meet the ring gear (pre-engaged type). The engine, flywheel, ring gear and starter are all the same as were in the donor vehicle. It takes several attempts to get it to engage and it's rapidly getting worse. Very embarrasing in the petrol station  :lol:

I've just looked up the price of a replacement ERR5009 (ss to NAD500210)....... £250 + VAT for an LR one or £130 + VAT for a Bosch one (OE)  :shock: :shock: I could buy a cheaper one from Paddocks or similar, but I don't want to find it's a Britpart item. I don't want to be replacing it again in 3 months time  :roll:

I'm used to Mini starters at £50!

I deal with QH so I might go with one of their reconditioned ones at £83.38+VAT.

And there was me thinking the spending was over  :'(

[Saffy]

have you tried stripping an cleaning the dog gear helicoil so it moves free? I had awful trouble awhile ago and it was a mix between gummed up dog and crap electrical connection on solenoid. Also an extra earth strap to the starter mount point doesn't do any harm. But I did end up getting a decent low mileage bosch one from landrover breaker in forest of dean - no need to buy new and definately DO NOT BUY  a cheap one - have one here and it's proper CRAP engineering and materials - not even close to water resistant either - cheap as you like.

[V8MoneyPit]

OK. I'll try to get the truck into work tomorrow and get the starter out. I still have my other car so if I don't manage to get it sorted I can get home at least! Well, now the snows gone I can!

It was thoroughly cleaned externally before it was put on. I'll try taking it apart and check it better.

I do only have one earth strap on it. I did wonder about this when I was building it.

[pondy653]

And there was me thinking the spending was over 

The spending is never over when you run a Land Rover ask my Mrs!!!  A rolling restoration project is what I call it.

[bogie]

My mate got a paddocks starter,it does the job but it looks very cheap,£93 AINT BAD. My local motor facter want £140 for a QH one which look proper and QH are only 5 mins down the road so where is this £89 price for cos i what one!!!

[V8MoneyPit]

The spending is never over when you run a Land Rover ask my Mrs!!!  A rolling restoration project is what I call it.

Yes, but after a £12k rebuild I would hope it would at least slow downa bit  :lol:

My mate got a paddocks starter,it does the job but it looks very cheap,£93 AINT BAD. My local motor facter want £140 for a QH one which look proper and QH are only 5 mins down the road so where is this £89 price for cos i what one!!!

We have a wholesale account with QH  :D The bonus of being in the motor trade.

Anyway, stripped it down, cleaned it up and put it back together....... and for the moment it seems to work. We'll see how long it lasts.

Why do Land Rover make it sooo difficult to get at the starter motor??  It was much easier putting it on when the engine was out  :lol:

[Saffy]

The spending is never over when you run a Land Rover ask my Mrs!!!  A rolling restoration project is what I call it.

Yes, but after a £12k rebuild I would hope it would at least slow downa bit  :lol:

My mate got a paddocks starter,it does the job but it looks very cheap,£93 AINT BAD. My local motor facter want £140 for a QH one which look proper and QH are only 5 mins down the road so where is this £89 price for cos i what one!!!

We have a wholesale account with QH  :D The bonus of being in the motor trade.

Anyway, stripped it down, cleaned it up and put it back together....... and for the moment it seems to work. We'll see how long it lasts.

Why do Land Rover make it sooo difficult to get at the starter motor??   It was much easier putting it on when the engine was out  :lol:

You obvious didn't spill enough blood or graze knuckles hard enough during the build and thus are now in the disapproval of the Green Oval Gods and they are seeking their pound of flesh. You'll get a crank rear oil seal leak next  [-o<

Once the dog spins free I lube it with a little copper slip. Hey the A-series mini starter dog seize up regular but you can a least clunk that one with hammer easy enough.

[bogie]

A disco lump is so much easier to get the starter!

[V8MoneyPit]

Well, I thought it was all OK, but this morning it's back to it's old tricks  :roll: So I might try a QH one given I will now be an expert at starter motor removal  :lol: