Challenger/L200 what's the difference?

[toger]

Can anyone give me the low down on the difference between these two vehicles please?

[robbie]

the challenger was the original name for the Shogun Sport, which is the 'estate' version of the L200, same mechanics more or less but not a pickup

I think the name change was around X reg

I had the Shogun Sport. Good machine too, goto my website below, follow the gallery and look at the Yorks Dales piccies..... I didnt get it stuck anywhere :)

[toger]

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I will try again.

which do you prefer, Mitsi or Disco?

[robbie]

the page should be fine now. I had miss-spelt the website name. Let me now if it still doesnt work please. I have changed the webname in the last week or so

With regard to the differences, they are both good in their own right. The Sport was really great but lacked ground clearance. If it hadnt been nicked.... I was going to raise it once the warranty was out. I never got it stuck anywhere and there was always lots of torque for off roading

The Disco is a little more comfortable than the sport and takes the bumps better. it has greater ground clearance and a difflock which does improve traction too

It is difficult to decide which is best, they are both good off road, both good on road. The Disco is a little quicker off the mark and a little better on fuel but the Sport looked betted I think, the Disco is a bit dated

Hope that helps :)

[toger]

Doesnt the mitsi have locking diffs as standard?

[robbie]

Instead of diff-lock, they have 'limited slip diff' on the rear (maybe front as well)

The bigger Shogun does have diff lock as standard. To be honest, I never really noticed any problems with the traction when I went off road and I did laning and site type terrain

Mind you, I didnt push it too far as it was my every day car too, neither do I push to much with the Disco... cant afford for it to be off the road

[alaric]

Challenger is still the name for the grey import from Japan - whereas Shogun Sport is the name vehicles originally sold in the UK (But Robbie is right in saying that it was sold in the UK as Challenger when first launched).

The big Mitsi 4 x 4's all have a centre diff lock as standard, but depending on age, options and original market may have open, limited slip or locking rear diffs.

Alaric.

[toger]

So the air locker as standard on a mitsi is just BS?
Thanks guys

[alaric]

Rear diff lock is an option, but it's electronic.

It's rare on Pajero's, but a bit more common on Shoguns.

Alaric.

[toger]

Any ideas on the L200 please?

[robbie]

The L200 technically is pretty much the same as the Sport. It does appear to have greater height on the rear, I think this is because it will be 'expected' to carry more weight.

The suspension at the rear of the L200 is leaf and not coil so does bounce around alot when empty in the rear. Some just carry one or two paving stones in there to stop that. The Sport was fine

Other than that, pretty much the same. Less leg room in the rear seats as they have moved them forward to give more pickup space

Test drive for a good few miles as they do suffer from clutch problems. mine only came about after driving for around 25 miles!!!! Then the clutch 'chattered' like mad. Turned out to be the clutch plate. Mitsubishi will probbly NOT cure the problem if it out of warranty.

Ground clearance can be altered by making adjustments ot the suspension on both back and front, I think the torsion bar is the key to that

[cssuk]

the rear locker on my paj is an air locker has its own air pump in the rear these are quite common on shoguns but pajs tend in the main to have a rear lsd

[robbie]

Mine was definately a Shogun and not a Paj but had a LSD not air locker